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Re: Jake Peavy

Postby mweir145 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:15 pm

stevethumb wrote:the rockies and d'backs did pretty well last year and tampa bay this year..the marlins and minnesota are competitive even with their shoestring budget...what have the yankees won recently ? or the LAD or LAA ?

There are exceptions, but only a few. The teams that spend the most money routinely make the playoffs (which is what truly matters...because if you can't get there, you can't win anyway). And I don't blame New York or Boston for doing what they have to do to win, it's a problem of the system. There is no real competitive balance.
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Re: Jake Peavy

Postby mweir145 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:18 pm

The_Show wrote:I don't think going to the AL East will kill Peavy's value. It'll take an obvious hit since he'll be going from the weak NL West to the powerhouse AL East. But I think Peavy can dominate wherever he goes. In 07, he dominated on the road just as much as he did at home (even had a better record on the road). So leaving Petco isn't a problem...it's switching leagues that'll be the problem.

I don't know. I expect Peavy's strikeout rate to drop considerably in that division with his ERA possibly heading into the 3.50 range. If he knows what's good for him, he'll decline a trade to New York.
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Re: Jake Peavy

Postby kab21 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:38 pm

Escobar (5 yrs team control) has more value than Cano to a team that will likely be headed into a long rebuilding process. And Cano isn't necessarily a bargain at 6M, 9M and 10M with a 14M and 15M options. Why not just sign Odawg for around 4/40 (or around there)? I'm not suggesting that the Padres should be signing expensive FA's, it's just that bringing in a player like Cano is like signing a FA to a 3/27M deal (including Cano's option buyouts).

Strangely Gorkys and AJax are somewhat comparable.
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Re: Jake Peavy

Postby Yoda » Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:46 pm

mweir145 wrote:
The_Show wrote:I don't think going to the AL East will kill Peavy's value. It'll take an obvious hit since he'll be going from the weak NL West to the powerhouse AL East. But I think Peavy can dominate wherever he goes. In 07, he dominated on the road just as much as he did at home (even had a better record on the road). So leaving Petco isn't a problem...it's switching leagues that'll be the problem.

I don't know. I expect Peavy's strikeout rate to drop considerably in that division with his ERA possibly heading into the 3.50 range. If he knows what's good for him, he'll decline a trade to New York.


I doubt his numbers will tank like that.
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Re: Jake Peavy

Postby J35J » Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:49 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:And with that, the Braves are out of the discussion.

http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/20 ... _purs.html


That was a pretty humorous read....regarding the Braves fans and their responses.
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Re: Jake Peavy

Postby daullaz » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:00 pm

Since the Padres look like they're trying to shed as much salary as possible, I don't think Cano will be in the gameplan. Judging by their demands, they will probably ask for Hughes + either Kennedy or Jackson as the centerpieces of the deal. Maybe throw Melky in there. Possibly Igawa, as $4 million a year isn't a bad price for a rotation guy if you don't care so much about performance.
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Re: Jake Peavy

Postby giants8307 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:07 pm

J35J wrote:
Neato Torpedo wrote:And with that, the Braves are out of the discussion.

http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/20 ... _purs.html


That was a pretty humorous read....regarding the Braves fans and their responses.


I love all the "Towers will come crawling back..." comments.
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Re: Jake Peavy

Postby mweir145 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:49 pm

Yoda wrote:
mweir145 wrote:
The_Show wrote:I don't think going to the AL East will kill Peavy's value. It'll take an obvious hit since he'll be going from the weak NL West to the powerhouse AL East. But I think Peavy can dominate wherever he goes. In 07, he dominated on the road just as much as he did at home (even had a better record on the road). So leaving Petco isn't a problem...it's switching leagues that'll be the problem.

I don't know. I expect Peavy's strikeout rate to drop considerably in that division with his ERA possibly heading into the 3.50 range. If he knows what's good for him, he'll decline a trade to New York.


I doubt his numbers will tank like that.

Why?

His FIP last year in San Diego was 3.60 as it was.
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Re: Jake Peavy

Postby bigwords » Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:15 pm

"His FIP last year in San Diego was 3.60 as it was."

That might be true, but one year doesn't make a player. He's only 28 years old. No reason why he can't have a season — just from a skills standpoint — more in tune with his production in 2004, 2005, or 2007.

He only had 10 wins last year. Do you think he'll get more as a member of the New York Yankees?
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Re: Jake Peavy

Postby mweir145 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:52 pm

bigwords wrote:That might be true, but one year doesn't make a player. He's only 28 years old. No reason why he can't have a season — just from a skills standpoint — more in tune with his production in 2004, 2005, or 2007.

True, but he also has a career 3.50 FIP. Last year was the norm, not the exception.

He only had 10 wins last year. Do you think he'll get more as a member of the New York Yankees?

No doubt, but the rest of the numbers will go down.
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