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Postby Diamond Miners » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:41 pm

Kershaw v CYoung / Kershaw v Joba

I currently have CYoung with a 1 year contract and I'm trying to decide if I dump him back into the draft and give Kershaw a contract (second part of this post) or keep Young for next year and try to redraft Kershaw. I'm leaning towards keeping Kershaw because his ceiling is higher and I've never been convinced of CYoung. Do you think Kershaw outperforms Chris Young (SD) next year? I know a few guys would be after Kershaw in the draft, so yet another reason to hang on to him now. I'm not sure I'd be able to redraft him.

Depending on what happens with part 1 of this post, I have one/two contracts to give going into next year. Currently I'm thinking of giving Joba a 4 year contract and Kershaw a 3 year. Would you reverse the contracts and give Kershaw the 4 year?

We are in a pitcher heavy points H2H points league and here is how I see my 10 keepers:
4: Kershaw/Joba
3: Pujols, Mi.Cabrera, Martin, Kershaw/Joba
2: Phillips, Bedard, FRod
1: Liriano, Nathan
M: Cahill, Porcello

We have quite a few options back in the draft next year: ARam, MYoung, Hardy, Roberts, Berkman, Mauer, Hart, Dunn, JShields, Kazmir, and Sheets thus far.

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Re: Keeper contracts - early input

Postby oddmanout7 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:20 am

I would take Kershaw over Young because while Young is solid, I would rather have the upside of kershaw. I could see him making a Bills like stride next season, and he is certainly talented enough to perhaps be a top 10 pitcher by the end of next year. Young is more boring, and you know what you are going to get more or less, which doesn't interest me nearly as much. As for the difference between Joba and Kershaw, I think it comes down to health. They are both great pitchers, but Joba has already had some shoulder issues while Kershaw is being protected from high pitch counts. They both play on very good teams,but Kershaw is in the NL and Joba in the AL. Add to it that Kershaw is also a lefty, and he is your choice for the longer contract...

This is all under the assumption that you can't extend Pujols or MCab to the 4 years rather than the 3...
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Re: Keeper contracts - early input

Postby kimchi_chigae » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:57 am

I'm with oddmanout7 in this one. I'd keep both Kershaw and Joba, and I'd give Joba a 4 year deal and Kershaw a 3 year deal. Between Kershaw and Joba, I could easily go the other way too and give a 4 year deal to Kershaw, especially because he plays in the NL and a better ballpark for him. But, I'm a big Joba fan.

As for Chris Young or Kershaw, I'd take Kershaw pretty easily. Not that Chris Young isn't any good, but low AVG players drive me nuts if they can't hit 40 bombs a year. Kershaw has great upside and could be a top 10 pitcher down the road, I don't think it will happen in 09, but we'll see.
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Re: Keeper contracts - early input

Postby Diamond Miners » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:28 am

oddmanout7 wrote:This is all under the assumption that you can't extend Pujols or MCab to the 4 years rather than the 3...


Thanks for the feedback oddman, it helps and is exactly my line of thinking. And you are correct, Pujols and MCab got 4 year contracts last year and can not be extended.


kimchi_chigae wrote:Not that Chris Young isn't any good, but low AVG players drive me nuts if they can't hit 40 bombs a year. Kershaw has great upside and could be a top 10 pitcher down the road, I don't think it will happen in 09, but we'll see.


Thanks kimchi, but I mentioned this CYoung was the pitcher from San Diego.
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Re: Keeper contracts - early input

Postby kimchi_chigae » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:38 pm

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Sorry 'bout that.

I'd keep Kershaw over any Chris Young. :-D
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Re: Keeper contracts - early input

Postby raiders_umpire » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:50 pm

I would give Joba the 4 year contract and Kershaw the 3 year contract. It is close either way you choose, but I like Joba's fastball a hair bit more even in that division.
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Re: Keeper contracts - early input

Postby PedroFan45 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:03 am

I would go with Kershaw over Chris Young as well. Between Kershaw and Joba I would give Kershaw the 4 year deal because of Joba's arm issues already and depending on what the Yanks feel like Joba could be a SP, setup or closer, you know Kershaw will be a starter
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Re: Keeper contracts - early input

Postby ensanimal » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:25 pm

Kershaw over Young easily for me.
I'd give the 4 year deal to Kershaw. I'm not liking the way the Yanks have been handling Joba so far. Kershaw has stud written all over him, and playing in LA can only help his numbers.
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Re: Keeper contracts - early input

Postby Yoda » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:27 pm

Kershaw 4, Joba 3. Not sure why everyone is so much higher on Joba at this point over Kershaw with his injury concerns and the uncertainty of his role. He will likely need to start the year in the pen again in 09.
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