The Artful Dodger wrote:I'm expecting more of the same as well. The hiccups with his command, though existent, have really been few and far between. The thing I'd nitpick on is that his HR rate is still a bit up there, but even that has improved, as well as the fact that he's been stingier in allowing walks to avoid any further damage. He's not quite as sharp on day games still, but I think he's improved in that regard too. More importantly, Ervin's K rate is back up again as he's wasting less pitches. If I could hazard to guess, both Billingsley and Ervin will go around the same round and won't be around by the end of the 8th round, at the very least.
I agree with the value. Ervin and BIllingsley should go around the same time. If I had to guess, I'd say 6th round.
Guess its not a bad association (Ervin and Bills) as far as draft position is concerned, but having been a Bills owner this year, I feel I would take him before Ervin in '09. Bills took a big step forward this year after a rough start, and I think he gets even better next year. Cut down on some walks and not go out there trying to strike every batter out and he's going to be in the top 10 before year's end.
I'd probably take Ervin over Bills for next year. I feel that Ervin is gonna have more W and lower WHIP, while Bills is gonna have a lower ERA. Both will K around 200.
But in their prime, Bills is gonna be the better player.
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Another Blown Save wrote:I'd probably take Ervin over Bills for next year. I feel that Ervin is gonna have more W and lower WHIP, while Bills is gonna have a lower ERA. Both will K around 200.
But in their prime, Bills is gonna be the better player.
The only advantage Ervin has over Bills this year was his WHIP. Both have similar #s in W and K rate. Bills has a sharper growth path since he is two years younger than Ervin so I'm not sure why you would take Ervin but...
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The Artful Dodger wrote:I'm expecting more of the same as well. The hiccups with his command, though existent, have really been few and far between. The thing I'd nitpick on is that his HR rate is still a bit up there, but even that has improved, as well as the fact that he's been stingier in allowing walks to avoid any further damage. He's not quite as sharp on day games still, but I think he's improved in that regard too. More importantly, Ervin's K rate is back up again as he's wasting less pitches. If I could hazard to guess, both Billingsley and Ervin will go around the same round and won't be around by the end of the 8th round, at the very least.
I agree with the value. Ervin and BIllingsley should go around the same time. If I had to guess, I'd say 6th round.
Yeah, I'd say 6th round as well.
As far as WHIP goes, the advantage in WHIP to Ervin is made greater because of that suspect April Billingsley posted where his command was totally off kilter when it was. Ervin has been more consistent in cutting down walks than Bills has, but the latter has made great strides with that as the season progressed. I'd take Billingsley over Ervin next season because of the NL advantage and the fact he's starting to induce the groundballs when he isn't getting the K, but both deserve to be separated by only a couple of draft picks next year.
Yoda wrote:I think I'd take Bills a couple rounds earlier. He is probably a top 10 pitcher for me in 09.
Draft position will be similar. End of the season value will be all Billingsley. I agree with top 10 value, he's getting better every year. Granted Bill's has arguably been a top 10-15 pitcher this year.
Hard to say, but I anticipate that Ervin and Lackey will within the same round range. If Ervin keeps improving, I'd say he's better than Lackey in '09.
As for Lackey, he typically owns Oakland but two things were against him last night: he wasn't throwing first pitch strikes as often as he does and two, the location of his secondary offerings was just off. I'd say that's been somewhat indicative of why he's regressed more than naturally in the second half.
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by activechamp2006 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:34 am 
exactly
