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Re: Mafia II - Day 2

Postby rlode67628 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:42 pm

teddy ballgame wrote:
rlode67628 wrote:Option 1b: mookie is the mafia who is trying to kill an innocent townie. If the doctor does not protect the right person, then we are looking at a 7 people tomorrow, and 6 the next day (assuming mookie is the mafia, and the other mafia kills somebody.). That still gives the mafia a chance to win seeing as jfg managed to do it last game.

I just don't get why he would do that so early in the game. Maybe if it was down to like 5 people, he could eek out another day and maybe a win, but with 10 people left he's going to be killed tomorrow when I'm revealed as a townie, leaving 1 mafia and 6 townies. Like you said, they still have a chance then but not nearly as good as it could be.

So here's my offer. Kill Mookie today. If he's not mafia then I'm gone tomorrow anyways, but there's really no way he can't be mafia at this point.

Unvote: teddy ballgame
Vote: Mookie


Voting Mookie out today could do a few things. One is that my option c is wrong, and that mookie is indeed the town investigator. This would mean that even though we would vote you out the next day (chances are that you would be the mafia). We would lose our town investigator for 1 day. The other option is that you are both the mafia, so:

voting Mookie out would look good for you
voting you out would look good for Mookie

This would leave us with an undecisive group, which increases the possibility of voting out a townie.

I believe that my option c has the best chance of being right, which is why I say we vote teddy out today, mookie tomorrow. This could likely result in:

voting out the remaining mafia
voting out a mafia, but killing the investigator

either way we nab a mafia, which is why I vote for teddy.

Vote: teddy
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Re: Mafia II - Day 2

Postby Mookie4ever » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:46 pm

rlode67628 wrote:
teddy ballgame wrote:
rlode67628 wrote:Option 1b: mookie is the mafia who is trying to kill an innocent townie. If the doctor does not protect the right person, then we are looking at a 7 people tomorrow, and 6 the next day (assuming mookie is the mafia, and the other mafia kills somebody.). That still gives the mafia a chance to win seeing as jfg managed to do it last game.

I just don't get why he would do that so early in the game. Maybe if it was down to like 5 people, he could eek out another day and maybe a win, but with 10 people left he's going to be killed tomorrow when I'm revealed as a townie, leaving 1 mafia and 6 townies. Like you said, they still have a chance then but not nearly as good as it could be.

So here's my offer. Kill Mookie today. If he's not mafia then I'm gone tomorrow anyways, but there's really no way he can't be mafia at this point.

Unvote: teddy ballgame
Vote: Mookie


Voting Mookie out today could do a few things. One is that my option c is wrong, and that mookie is indeed the town investigator. This would mean that even though we would vote you out the next day (chances are that you would be the mafia). We would lose our town investigator for 1 day. The other option is that you are both the mafia, so:

voting Mookie out would look good for you
voting you out would look good for Mookie

This would leave us with an undecisive group, which increases the possibility of voting out a townie.

I believe that my option c has the best chance of being right, which is why I say we vote teddy out today, mookie tomorrow. This could likely result in:

voting out the remaining mafia
voting out a mafia, but killing the investigator

either way we nab a mafia, which is why I vote for teddy.

Vote: teddy



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Re: Mafia II - Day 2

Postby rlode67628 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:47 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:What possible benefit could there be to me saying that I'm the investigator if I was not?


I stated this in my option C. You would look extremely good, and you would avoid nearly all suspicion of the last mafia. If I hadn't identified your plan, chances are you would be in the clear and the mafia would win the game. This is why I strongly believe that you and teddy are the remaining mafia.
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Re: Mafia II - Day 2

Postby rlode67628 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:48 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:Truly, you have a dizzying intellect. (Princess Bride quote)


I tried to simplify it as much as possible, as I knew no one would understand it if it was just a wall of text. :-S
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Re: Mafia II - Day 2

Postby Mookie4ever » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:50 pm

rlode67628 wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:What possible benefit could there be to me saying that I'm the investigator if I was not?


I stated this in my option C. You would look extremely good, and you would avoid nearly all suspicion of the last mafia. If I hadn't identified your plan, chances are you would be in the clear and the mafia would win the game. This is why I strongly believe that you and teddy are the remaining mafia.



Fine then I suggest we vote Teddy tonight, me the next night (if I am mafia then it is game over) and if I am the investigator that I profess to be then the game continues and everybody votes for you the night after (as you are looking very suspicious to me right now).
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Re: Mafia II - Day 2

Postby Mookie4ever » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:51 pm

rlode67628 wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:Truly, you have a dizzying intellect. (Princess Bride quote)


I tried to simplify it as much as possible, as I knew no one would understand it if it was just a wall of text. :-S


Heaven forbid we have a hard time following you logic :-b
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Re: Mafia II - Day 2

Postby rlode67628 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:54 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:Heaven forbid we have a hard time following you logic :-b


It's a bit out there but I think it's true. I had to say it a few times to myself so I could understand it. :-B :-b
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Re: Mafia II - Day 2

Postby dclark0699 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:56 pm

Best case: Mookie is telling the truth. Our doctor saves Mookie and we have an 8-1 advantage going into the next day.

Worst Case: Mookie is lying. Takes us down to 7-2. One killed over night, 6-2. Kill Mookie. 6-1. Still a big advantage.

Unless Mookie is not trying to win and he is a normal townie saying this, but that wouldn't make any sense at all.

I trust.

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Re: Mafia II - Day 2

Postby Mookie4ever » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:57 pm

rlode67628 wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:Heaven forbid we have a hard time following you logic :-b


It's a bit out there but I think it's true. I had to say it a few times to myself so I could understand it. :-B :-b


Sounds ok. So townies vote for Teddy tonight, me tomorrow and you the next day.

I think that this way the townies win 3 nights from now. I knew that I was throwing myself on a grenade when I revealed myself anyways.
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Re: Mafia II - Day 2

Postby pokerplaya » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:59 pm

Ok, Rlode, then if Mookie is not the investigator we need the real investigator to come forth now ----

CALL TO THE INVESTIGATOR, IDENTIFY YOURSELF!
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