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Re: lincecum = cy

Postby mweir145 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:23 am

Ender wrote:CC Sabathia is the only real choice for the CY in the NL.

Not really. Lincecum has pitched just as well as Sabathia, but with 100+ more innings.
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Re: lincecum = cy

Postby BigBlue » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:02 am

Ender wrote:CC Sabathia is the only real choice for the CY in the NL.


Wow, just wow... :-t
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Re: lincecum = cy

Postby great gretzky » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:38 pm

sabathia's aggregate states aren't as good as lincecum's. That would be a travesty if CC got it. well not a travesty, but it wouldn't be justified when there are people who have outperformed him/performed at his level that have been in the league all season. When you consider that Lincecum is on an atrocious team and is winning at the same clip essentially, I don't see how CC is realistic.
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Re: lincecum = cy

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:47 pm

Hell, Harden has outperformed CC since he came over to the NL. 1 more K in 20 less innings with lower ratios.
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Re: lincecum = cy

Postby great gretzky » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:09 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:Hell, Harden has outperformed CC since he came over to the NL. 1 more K in 20 less innings with lower ratios.


yea, I don't think it would be fair or warranted to give it to CC. ESPN was talking at one point of CC needs to be considered for MVP, which I find ridiculous. I don't like the idea (but don't dismiss it out of hand) of a pitcher being the MVP, but really.
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Re: lincecum = cy

Postby Snakes Gould » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:30 pm

im one to never suggest this, but im just throwing it out there.

does lidge deserve any cy young or mvp votes here? 33 in a row for the phils and the phils are 62-0 when leading after 9. how remarkable is that in this day and age?
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Re: lincecum = cy

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:55 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:im one to never suggest this, but im just throwing it out there.

does lidge deserve any cy young or mvp votes here? 33 in a row for the phils and the phils are 62-0 when leading after 9. how remarkable is that in this day and age?

Stop trying to quantify "clutch". :-b
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Re: lincecum = cy

Postby BJSFAN123 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:18 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:Hell, Harden has outperformed CC since he came over to the NL. 1 more K in 20 less innings with lower ratios.


Less innings because Harden only goes 5-6 usually..while CC is pitching a CG every other start..CC has been better in my book.
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Re: lincecum = cy

Postby rookies and cream » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:30 pm

Well, one thing's for sure. Brandon Webb is not looking good and hurting his CY chances each time out. :-t
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Re: lincecum = cy

Postby byfrcp » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:41 pm

BJSFAN123 wrote:
Neato Torpedo wrote:Hell, Harden has outperformed CC since he came over to the NL. 1 more K in 20 less innings with lower ratios.


Less innings because Harden only goes 5-6 usually..while CC is pitching a CG every other start..CC has been better in my book.


Exactly. I'll take CC's 2 runs over 9 innings than Hardens 1 run over 5 or 6 innings any day.

CC will have 5 more starts. If he wins 4 of them that gives him 13 Wins in 16 starts. With the CGs and SHOs I would give him the CY if he had 13 wins.

But for now I say Lince over Webb.
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