I welcome all input, I just signed up for a huge 3 year keeper league that will start in 2009. I made a rough draft of my top 100...all suggestions are very welcome, you guys talked me out of C.C. being the #1 pitcher this week and I think this is a good place to get info. Anyways, without further ado...here is the list. Top 100: 1 Alex Rodriguez, 3B, NYY 2 Hanley Ramirez, SS, FLA 3 Matt Holliday, OF, COL 4 Jose Reyes, SS, NYM 5 Albert Pujols, 1B, STL 6 Chase Utley, 2B, PHI 7 Grady Sizemore, OF, CLE 8 David Wright, 3B, NYM 9 Ryan Braun, OF, MIL 10 Miguel Cabrera, 1B/3B, DET 11 Josh Hamilton, OF, TEX 12 Alfonso Soriano, OF, CHC 13 Johan Santana, SP, NYM 14 Jake Peavy, SP, SD 15 Lance Berkman, 1B/OF, HOU 16 Ian Kinsler, 2B, TEX 17 Matt Kemp, OF, LA 18 C.C. Sabathia, SP, MIL 19 Brandon Webb, SP, ARZ 20 Tim Linecum, SP, SF 21 Mark Teixeria, 1B, LAA 22 Carl Crawford, OF, TB 23 Cole Hamels, SP, PHI 24 Ryan Howard, 1B, PHI 25 Prince Fielder, 1B, MIL 26 Carlos Lee, OF, HOU 27 Ichiro Suzuki, OF, SEA 28 Carlos Beltran, OF, NYM 29 Carlos Quentin, OF, CWS 30 Evan Longoria, 3B, TB 31 Jimmy Rollins, SS, PHI 32 David Ortiz, DH, BOS 33 Fransisco Rodriguez, CL, LAA 34 Jonathon Papelbon, CL, BOS 35 Scott Kazmir, SP, TB 36 Chad Billingsley, SP, LA 37 Joba Chamberlain, SP, NYY 38 Vladimir Guerrero, OF, LAA 39 Jason Bay, OF, BOS 40 Nick Markakis, OF, BAL 41 Brian Roberts, 2B, BAL 42 Alex Rios, OF, TOR 43 B.J. Upton, OF, TB 44 Justin Morneau, 1B, MIN 45 Maggilo Ordonez, OF, DET 46 Brandon Phillips, 2B, CIN 47 Curtis Granderson, OF, DET 48 Roy Halladay, SP, TOR 49 Dan Haren, SP, ARZ 50 Aramis Ramirez, 3B, CHC 51 John Lackey, SP, LAA 52 Jermaine Dye, OF, CWS 53 Manny Ramirez, OF, LA 54 Russell Martin, C, LA 55 Joe Nathan, CL, MIN 56 Bobby Jenks, CL, CWS 57 Matt Cain, SP, SF 58 Carlos Zambrano, SP, CHC 59 Clayton Kershaw, SP, LA 60 Dustin Pedroia, 2B, BOS 61 Joe Mauer, C, MIN 62 Dan Uggla, 2B, FLA 63 Garrett Atkins, 3B/1B, COL 64 Joakim Soria, CL, KC 65 Erik Bedard, SP, SEA 66 Chipper Jones, 3B, ATL 67 Corey Hart, OF, MIL 68 Brian McCann, C, ATL 69 Brad Lidge, CL, PHI 70 Billy Wagner, CL, NYM 71 Edison Volquez, SP, CIN 72 Carlos Guillen, 1B/3B, DET 73 Geovany Soto, C, CHC 74 Vernon Wells, OF, TOR 75 Adrian Gonzalez, 1B, SD 76 Pat Burrell, OF, PHI 77 Jacoby Ellsbury, OF, BOS 78 Victor Martinez, C/1B, CLE 79 Rich Harden, SP, CHC 80 Ben Sheets, SP, MIL 81 Daisuke Matsuzaka, SP, BOS 82 Felix Hernandez, SP, SEA 83 James Shields, SP, TB 84 Bobby Abreu, OF, NYY 85 Derrek Lee, 1B, CHC 86 Adam Dunn, OF, ARZ 87 Chone Figgins, 3B/OF, LAA 88 Hunter Pence, OF, HOU 89 Jhonny Peralta, SS, CLE 90 Alexi Ramirez, 2B/SS/OF, CWS 91 Shane Victorino, OF, PHI 92 Brad Hawpe, OF, COL 93 Josh Beckett, SP, BOS 94 Fransisco Liriano, SP, MIN 95 Cliff Lee, SP, CLE 96 Justvin Verlander, SP, DET 97 Michael Young, SS, TEX 98 Derek Jeter, SS, NYY 99 Kevin Youkilus, 1B/3B, BOS 100 Milton Bradley, OF, TEX Just Missed: Mariano Rivera, CL, NYY Jose Valverde, CL, HOU Kevin Gregg, CL, FLA Brian Fuentes, CL, COL Johnny Damon, OF, NYY Aubrey Huff, 1B/3B, BAL Carlos Pena, 1B, TB Ryan Ludwick, OF, STL Nate McLouth, OF, PIT Rual Ibanez, OF, SEA Ervin Santana, SP, LAA A.J. Burnett, SP, TOR Javier Vazquez, SP, CWS Ryan Dempster, SP, CHC Willy Taveras, OF, COL Xavier Nady, OF, NYY Randy Winn, OF, SF Melvin Mora, 3B, BAL Mark DeRosa, 2B/3B/OF, CHC
Last edited by TheGhost76777 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
ortiz at 56?!? and you have closers ranked too high. but anyway, i think i remember seeing other ranking threads not too long ago. do a search in this forum and you should find em
ichiro is too high imo - this is coming from someone with ichiro sig. all closers are way too high. vlad's on the decline but i still think he's above maggs. might wanna bump down holliday since he might move out of colorado. i know ortiz had a down year but that's a harsh plummeting at 56. bump down ellsbury, his hot start was only a mirage. aram needs to be bumped up more ahead of chipper, 3B is getting shallow after this yr. brad hawpe, alexei ramirez (only due to no track record), bump down, figgins, pence bump up. imo, mccann should be the highest ranked catcher period.
ichiro is too high imo - this is coming from someone with ichiro sig. all closers are way too high. vlad's on the decline but i still think he's above maggs. might wanna bump down holliday since he might move out of colorado. i know ortiz had a down year but that's a harsh plummeting at 56. bump down ellsbury, his hot start was only a mirage. aram needs to be bumped up more ahead of chipper, 3B is getting shallow after this yr. brad hawpe, alexei ramirez (only due to no track record), bump down, figgins, pence bump up. imo, mccann should be the highest ranked catcher period.
hope that helps.
yes, thank you. going to look over the list and update it tonight. thanks a lot.
Still kind of early to be doing this (there's another keeper ranking thread lurking around here too), but I'll help ya. / = move up/down
In general, you're overrating closers and at times, SP's.
TheGhost76777 wrote:Top 100: 1 Alex Rodriguez, 3B, NYY 2 Matt Holliday, OF, COL If Holliday is traded, I just can't see him justified as the #2 ranked keeper. His away splits improved this year but they're still quite bipolar to say that when extrapolated over a full year, he won't be a top 5 player. 3 Hanley Ramirez, SS, FLA I think Hanley is an obvious 1-2 with A-Rod but that's just me. 4 Jose Reyes, SS, NYM I'd put Pujols here 5 Albert Pujols, 1B, STL 6 Chase Utley, 2B, PHI 7 Grady Sizemore, OF, CLE I'd drop him down a few spots. Still a first rounder but a late first rounder 8 David Wright, 3B, NYM 9 Ryan Braun, OF, MIL 10 Miguel Cabrera, 1B/3B, DET 11 Josh Hamilton, OF, TEX 12 Alfonso Soriano, OF, CHC 13 Johan Santana, SP, NYM He's still top 20 but with pitching so deep, I'd knock him down a couple. 14 Jake Peavy, SP, SD 15 Lance Berkman, 1B/OF, HOU 16 Ian Kinsler, 2B, TEX 17 Matt Kemp, OF, LA Probably top 30 material but a few guys I'd rather have at this spot than Kemp 18 C.C. Sabathia, SP, MIL 19 Brandon Webb, SP, ARZ 20 Tim Linecum, SP, SF 21 Mark Teixeria, 1B, LAA 22 Carl Crawford, OF, TB 23 Ichiro Suzuki, OF, SEA 24 Cole Hamels, SP, PHI 25 Fransisco Rodriguez, CL, LAA No closer should be taken this high. K-Rod's value is way inflated for a guy who statistically is having a down year. 26 Ryan Howard, 1B, PHI Despite his average killing ways the last 2 years, I still think he deserves a bump up. 27 Prince Fielder, 1B, MIL Slow start shouldn't deter you from ranking him higher. 28 Carlos Lee, OF, HOU He should be close to 100% or at it in time for next year. 29 Jonathon Papelbon, CL, BOS 30 Carlos Beltran, OF, NYM I'd still easily take Beltran over the likes of Ichiro or Cole Hamels. 31 Carlos Quentin, OF, CWS Should be top 25 easily 32 Evan Longorai, 3B, TB 33 Jimmy Rollins, SS, PHI Remember the ankle sprain has slowed him down a bit. He regressed but that was really rock bottom for him. 34 Scott Kazmir, SP, TB 35 Chad Billingsley, SP, LA Bills' K rate is a nice surprise and though he's improved his pitch efficiency, I don't think he's in the top 35. 36 Joba Chamberlain, SP, NYY I'd be very very skittish to rank Joba here 37 Joe Nathan, CL, MIN 38 Bobby Jenks, CL, CWS 39 Maggilo Ordonez, OF, DET 40 Vladimir Guerrero, OF, LAA 41 Jason Bay, OF, BOS 42 Nick Markakis, OF, BAL Should be 10-15 spots higher. The kid has an immense future. 43 Brian Roberts, 2B, BAL 44 Alex Rios, OF, TOR 45 B.J. Upton, OF, TB I take him over any top closer you ranked higher. 46 Justin Morneau, 1B, MIN 47 Roy Halladay, SP, TOR 48 Dan Haren, SP, ARZ 49 John Lackey, SP, LAA 50 Jermaine Dye, OF, CWS 51 Manny Ramirez, OF, LA 52 Brandon Phillips, 2B, CIN Needs to be way up there still. 53 Curtis Granderson, OF, DET 54 Joakim Soria, CL, KC 55 Russell Martin, C, LA 56 David Ortiz, DH, BOS 57 Erik Bedard, SP, SEA 58 Matt Cain, SP, SF 59 Carlos Zambrano, SP, CHC 60 Clayton Kershaw, SP, LA 61 Chipper Jones, 3B, ATL 62 Jacoby Ellsbury, OF, BOS 63 Dustin Pedroia, 2B, BOS 64 Aramis Ramirez, 3B, CHC 65 Joe Mauer, C, MIN 66 Dan Uggla, 2B, FLA 67 Garrett Atkins, 3B/1B, COL 68 Brad Lidge, CL, PHI 69 Billy Wagner, CL, NYM 70 Corey Hart, OF, MIL No way do I see Hart being ranked this low with the type of year he's enjoyed. Top 30 for sure. 71 Edison Volquez, SP, CIN 72 Carlos Guillen, 1B/3B, DET 73 Geovany Soto, C, CHC 74 Vernon Wells, OF, TOR 75 Victor Martinez, C/1B, CLE 76 Rich Harden, SP, CHC 77 Ben Sheets, SP, MIL 78 Daisuke Matsuzaka, SP, BOS 79 Felix Hernandez, SP, SEA 80 James Shields, SP, TB 81 Bobby Abreu, OF, NYY 82 Derrek Lee, 1B, CHC 83 Adam Dunn, OF, ARZ 84 Brian McCann, C, ATL 85 Josh Beckett, SP, BOS 86 Fransisco Liriano, SP, MIN 87 Jhonny Peralta, SS, CLE 88 Alexi Ramirez, 2B/SS/OF, CWS 89 Shane Victorino, OF, PHI 90 Adrian Gonzalez, 1B, SD Belongs way up in the top 30 despite the fact the Petco factor has inhibited him 91 Brad Hawpe, OF, COL 92 Pat Burrell, OF, PHI 93 Cliff Lee, SP, CLE 94 Justvin Verlander, SP, DET 95 Michael Young, SS, TEX 96 Derek Jeter, SS, NYY 97 Chone Figgins, 3B/OF, LAA 98 Hunter Pence, OF, HOU 99 Kevin Youkilus, 1B/3B, BOS 100 Milton Bradley, OF, TEX Just Missed: Mariano Rivera, CL, NYY Jose Valverde, CL, HOU Kevin Gregg, CL, FLA Brian Fuentes, CL, COL Johnny Damon, OF, NYY Aubrey Huff, 1B/3B, BAL Carlos Pena, 1B, TB Ryan Ludwick, OF, STL Nate McLouth, OF, PIT Rual Ibanez, OF, SEA Ervin Santana, SP, LAA A.J. Burnett, SP, TOR Javier Vazquez, SP, CWS Ryan Dempster, SP, CHC Willy Taveras, OF, COL Xavier Nady, OF, NYY Randy Winn, OF, SF Melvin Mora, 3B, BAL Mark DeRosa, 2B/3B/OF, CHC
on the subject of alexei ramirez, i do think he's worthy of being a top 100 keeper, especially since he will likely get SS eligibility along with his 2B. it's just that i don't know much of his past, but i wouldn't argue against keeping him. anyone know what kinda stats he put up in cuba?
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