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Re: PECOTA's Top 50

Postby jfg » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:33 pm

I've been pretty pleased with them and I think it's what puts them ahead of the rest of the pack. They miss sometimes but they've been pretty accurate in my experience- much better than the rest.
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Re: PECOTA's Top 50

Postby markj11 » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:35 pm

Yoda wrote:Below is a comparison of other curve ball hurlers whom I feel have some of the best stuff in the MLB.
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He has more downward movement than Felix or Lincecum. The average differential between his fastball and curve is a whopping 20 MPH. His average fastball is nearly 95 as a 20 yo. You don't see too many raw talents like this very often. I'd probably take this kid top 10 if I were starting a team today.


I think the lack of speed (6-8mph) attributes to having more downward movement.
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Re: PECOTA's Top 50

Postby Yoda » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:56 pm

jfg wrote:I've been pretty pleased with them and I think it's what puts them ahead of the rest of the pack. They miss sometimes but they've been pretty accurate in my experience- much better than the rest.


I'll agree to disagree. I do like them a lot for players who have meaningful MLB experience. Not at all for rookies and prospects or players with limited experience.
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Re: PECOTA's Top 50

Postby Yoda » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:59 pm

markj11 wrote:I think the lack of speed (6-8mph) attributes to having more downward movement.


Agreed but when a guy who throws 95 MPH on average also has a 20 MPH differential and an 18" vertical differential between two pitches, that is pretty sick.
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Re: PECOTA's Top 50

Postby The G.O.A.T. » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:45 pm

Yoda can I ask where you get your pitch (FX) data?

Also call me biased, but give me Webb over Johan, Peavy, and CC. Just seems like he is going to age well.
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Re: PECOTA's Top 50

Postby bigken117 » Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:10 pm

I won't bellyache too much about the list, it's not worth getting that worked up over, however I think the fact that Crab Cakes Sabathia would be the #1 pitcher they would build a team around is pretty damn surprising. He's not in my top 5 off the top of my head and I doubt he makes my top 10. I think too much is being made of his NL run and his collapse in last season's playoffs is not in anyone's mind.
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Re: PECOTA's Top 50

Postby Pogotheostrich » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:35 am

bigken117 wrote:I won't bellyache too much about the list, it's not worth getting that worked up over, however I think the fact that Crab Cakes Sabathia would be the #1 pitcher they would build a team around is pretty damn surprising. He's not in my top 5 off the top of my head and I doubt he makes my top 10. I think too much is being made of his NL run and his collapse in last season's playoffs is not in anyone's mind.

I think you have to worry about his future health as well given his weight.
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Re: PECOTA's Top 50

Postby mweir145 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:43 pm

I'm surprised Roy Halladay isn't a lot higher than he is. He's actually below Rich Harden. :-o Though I suppose his age hurts him.

I mean George W. picked Halladay when asked which pitcher in baseball he'd want to start a team with. Should I listen to PECOTA or Bush? :-b
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Re: PECOTA's Top 50

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:13 pm

mweir145 wrote:I'm surprised Roy Halladay isn't a lot higher than he is. He's actually below Rich Harden. :-o Though I suppose his age hurts him.

I mean George W. picked Halladay when asked which pitcher in baseball he'd want to start a team with. Should I listen to PECOTA or Bush? :-b

I don't think he can pronounce Lincecum. :-b
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Re: PECOTA's Top 50

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:08 am

Neato Torpedo wrote:
mweir145 wrote:I'm surprised Roy Halladay isn't a lot higher than he is. He's actually below Rich Harden. :-o Though I suppose his age hurts him.

I mean George W. picked Halladay when asked which pitcher in baseball he'd want to start a team with. Should I listen to PECOTA or Bush? :-b

I don't think he can pronounce Lincecum. :-b


Sure he can. He thinks it's his favorite cereal.
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