1. C.C. Sabathia, FA 2. Johan Santana, NYM 3. Jake Peavy, SD 4. Brandon Webb, ARZ 5. Tim Lincecum, SF 6. Cole Hamels, PHI 7. Scott Kazmir, TB 8. Dan Haren, ARZ 9. Chad Billingsley, LAD 10. Roy Halladay, TOR 11. John Lackey, LAA 12. Erik Bedard, SEA 13. Rich Harden, CHC 14. Cliff Lee, CLE 15. Josh Beckett, BOS 16. Ben Sheets, FA 17. Matt Cain, SF 18. Joba Chamberlain, NYY 19. Edison Volquez, CIN 20. Carlos Zambrano, CHC 21. Ervin Santana, LAA 22. Fransisco Liriano, MIN 23. James Shields, TB 24. Felix Hernandez, SEA 25. Daisuke Matsuzaka, BOS 26. Roy Oswalt, HOU 27. Justin Verlander, DET 28. A.J. Burnett, FA 29. Javier Vazquez, CWS 30. Jeremy Guthrie, BAL 31. Jon Lester, BOS 32. Tim Hudson, ATL 33. Jair Jurrjens, ATL 34. David Price, TB 35. Clayton Kershaw, LAD 36. Yoavani Gallardo, MIL 37. Ryan Dempster, CHC 38. Justin Duchscherer, OAK 39. Jon Danks, CWS 40. Matt Garza, TB 41. Oliver Perez, NYM 42. Fausto Carmona, CLE 43. Mark Buehrle, CWS 44. Adam Wainwright, STL 45. Chris Carpenter, STL 46. Mike Mussina, NYY 47. Randy Johnson, ARZ 48. Joe Saunders, LAA 49. Chris Young, SD 50. Shaun Marcum, TOR
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1. halladay should be on there. probably somewhere in the hamels/kazmir region. 2. i'm not sure cookie cookie has eclipsed santana and peavy yet. 3. i would personally take lincecum above webb, but i can see why others would not.
i'm sure there's more, but i haven't looked much outside of your top 10-15.
EDIT: cliff lee is waaaaaaaaay too high. there's another thread on him hanging around the front page of the leftovers though. check it out. also, carpenter should be on there. probably somewhere around liriano. yovani should be on this as well.
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Do you really think CC Sabathia is the best pitcher? I would definitely take Peavy, Santana and Webb over him (not necessarily in that order). Sabathia has been good this year, but Webb is arguably having a better year and Peavy and Santana are not far behind. These other 3 guys have more history of being in the elite group, so I'd tend to take them.
The Brewers are definitely using him like a rental and he's on pace to eclipse the 250 IP mark this year after leading the league with 241 IP last year. He's not a Livan Hernandez or Roy Halladay type of pitcher when they were leading the league in IP - one that pitches to contact and works for efficiency.
Also with CC being a free agent, I think that makes him even more risky. Sure he could sign with a good club and keep his Ws up, but he could also sign with the Lastros. Likewise he could sign with the Padres and help his ratios in that pitchers paradise, but he could sign with the Rockies, Rangers or Lastros and watch pop-ups turn into HRs.
Add up more history of elite numbers for the other guys, my fear of overuse and the unknown of what team he ends up playing for and there's no way I rank him higher than 4th.