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Postby The Jury » Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:45 pm

I'm thinking of taking a pitcher in each of rounds 1 and 2 or a hitter to start of and then pitchers in 2 and 3. Would there be enough bats to go around when we get to rounds 5-9 when the other dudes are taking pitchers I'll be grabbing hitters. I have the 5th pick out of 8 teams in snake draft.

My draft very roughly may look something like this:
1) Prior
2) Halladay/Pedro/Schilling
3-6) Tier 2 hitters/a shortstop/Kent/Boone
7-10) Juan Gonzalez/Shawn Green/Berkman/etc..

I would end up with a nice rotation and I would plug plug my batting spots with players like Juan Gonzo, Austin Kearns, Shawn Green, Giles, etc - the guys who tend to get picked around round 6-10 this year.. I'd have Hank Blalock, etc.. So I'd bats that aren't the biggest names going into this year but have produced well in the last couple years.

Would this work?
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Postby Mr.Cocky! » Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:59 pm

I am going to do it in one of my fantasy drafts this season, just to see what kind of pitching staff I can assemble. I am going to draft stud pitching in the 1st 5 rounds, and then hitting. I will problably have an awefull team by doing this, but it I will play this team for a couple of weeks in April, just to see how it does. I am big on drafting hitting early, because as another poster on these boards stated, about 30% of quality fantasy pitching is had from the waiver wire every season, where only 10% of quality hitting is had from the waiver wire each year.
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Postby bleach168 » Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:39 pm

The guy who won my league last year went pitching first with Pedro and Mussina in the first 2 rounds.

He followed it with Sheffield and Delgado in rounds 3 and 4, so you can see why he did so well.
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Postby bell » Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:44 pm

From what I've seen Boone and Kent have been going in the second round. The only upper tier MI left would be Jeter, followed by someone like Giles.
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Postby CheeseBeger » Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:49 pm

I took hitter in the 1st, 3 pitchers, then hitters heres what i got

C J. Varitek (Bos - C) CUtilBench - 123/451 63 25 85 3 .273
1B T. Helton (Col - 1B) 1BUtilBench - 209/583 135 33 117 0 .358
2B J. Hairston Jr. (Bal - 2B) 2BUtilBench - 59/218 25 2 21 14 .271
3B M. Cabrera (Fla - 3B,LF) 3BOFUtilBench - 84/314 39 12 62 0 .268
SS R. Furcal (Atl - SS) SSUtilBench - 194/664 130 15 61 25 .292
OF A. Jones (Atl - CF) OFUtilBench - 165/595 101 36 116 4 .277
OF R. Hidalgo (Hou - RF) OFUtilBench - 159/514 91 28 88 9 .309
OF H. Matsui (NYY - LF,CF) OFUtilBench - 179/623 82 16 106 2 .287
Util D. Ortiz (Bos - 1B,DH) 1BUtilBench - 129/448 79 31 101 0 .288
BN J. Reyes (NYM - SS) SSUtilBench - 84/274 47 5 32 13 .307
BN J. Burnitz (Col - LF,CF,RF) OFUtilBench - 111/464 63 31 77 5 .239
BN M. Bradley (Cle - CF) OFUtilBench - 121/377 61 10 56 17 .321



Pos Pitchers Edit Opp Status IP W SV K ERA WHIP
SP C. Schilling (Bos - SP) SPPBench - 168.0 8 0 194 2.95 1.05
SP K. Wood (ChC - SP) SPPBench - 211.0 14 0 266 3.20 1.19
RP J. Borowski (ChC - RP) RPPBench - 68.1 2 33 66 2.63 1.05
RP A. Rhodes (Oak - RP) RPPBench - 54.0 3 3 48 4.17 1.31
P T. Hudson (Oak - SP) SPPBench - 240.0 16 0 162 2.70 1.07
P M. Hampton (Atl - SP) SPPBench - 190.0 14 0 110 3.84 1.39
P J. Washburn (Ana - SP) SPPBench - 207.1 10 0 118 4.43 1.25
BN M. Batista (Tor - SP,RP) SPRPPBench - 193.1 10 0 142 3.54 1.33
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Re: Would early round pitching work?

Postby Casimir » Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:50 pm

The Jury wrote:I'm thinking of taking a pitcher in each of rounds 1 and 2 or a hitter to start of and then pitchers in 2 and 3. Would there be enough bats to go around when we get to rounds 5-9 when the other dudes are taking pitchers I'll be grabbing hitters. I have the 5th pick out of 8 teams in snake draft.

My draft very roughly may look something like this:
1) Prior
2) Halladay/Pedro/Schilling
3-6) Tier 2 hitters/a shortstop/Kent/Boone
7-10) Juan Gonzalez/Shawn Green/Berkman/etc..

I would end up with a nice rotation and I would plug plug my batting spots with players like Juan Gonzo, Austin Kearns, Shawn Green, Giles, etc - the guys who tend to get picked around round 6-10 this year.. I'd have Hank Blalock, etc.. So I'd bats that aren't the biggest names going into this year but have produced well in the last couple years.

Would this work?


I'm trying this as we speak. I traded my 1st and 8th for a 2nd and 3rd and went with Wood, Vazquez, Hudson, and Wagner with 4 of my first 5 picks.

I thinking I'm doing well so far through 14 rounds, although my middle infield is a little weak. I'm using Rototimes projections with a few minor tweaks, and I'm ranked 1st overall according to them. Still have 8 more starting positions to pick, but 3 are OF (deepest position available), 1 is a U (could grab a 4th OF), and the other 4 are Ps. With the advantage I should have in Ks, I could take Ps with low ERAs and nominal Ks and not affect myself too poorly.
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Postby bell » Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:51 pm

I hope that MI doesn't have a Vina in there. ;-)
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Postby Casimir » Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:54 pm

bell wrote:I hope that MI doesn't have a Vina in there. ;-)


If you're asking about my MI, that'd be an emphatic NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've got Rafael Furcal (gonna be running like crazy with the exodus of power from Atlanta), Adam Kennedy (good offense maybe rubs off on him?), and D'Angelo Jimenez (like him a lot as a sleeper in that bandbox).
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Postby SoxFanPJ » Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:53 pm

5th pick might not be the best spot to try this strategy out, at 5 you can get one of the elite hitters

Arod, Pujols, Soriano, Helton, Beltran, Vlad or Bonds.

I would have trouble passing these guys up when you might still be able to grab, Pedro, Schill or Halladay in the 2nd. Frankly I would pray that one of the first 4 guys grabs prior.
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Postby LionsandTigersOhMy » Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:01 pm

Your right.I tried this strategy 4 times in 4 different draft positions.When I had the 11 and 12 picked it worked pretty good..When I had 1 pick I obviously took Arod and when I had 6th pick it failed pretty bad.These are 12 team leagues and I would only recomend it if you have a back to back or close to it draft position..
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