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Re: A Jacoby Ellsbury/Jose Reyes comparison

Postby thedude » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:51 pm

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dclark0699 wrote:I'd say if I was going to compare him with anyone I'd pick BJ Upton.

You'd get a few more SB from Jacoby - but likely more power from BJ (just not this year)


I think even BJ is a stretch knowing that he has been playing hurt all season.



Well Jacoby's nasty wrist injury in June has been hurting his production for the last couple of months.
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Re: A Jacoby Ellsbury/Jose Reyes comparison

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:01 am

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check out this article:
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puts him in bad light :-?

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Re: A Jacoby Ellsbury/Jose Reyes comparison

Postby bigken117 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:12 am

BitterDodgerFan wrote:puts him in bad light :-?


Wow, that guy doesn't think too highly of himself...Five digs on the "analyst" in five sentences.
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Re: A Jacoby Ellsbury/Jose Reyes comparison

Postby Kingctb27 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:20 am

Ells isn't in Reyes's league... And this is coming from someone who doesn't own Reyes on a single team. In almost every part of the game Reyes is superior.
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Re: A Jacoby Ellsbury/Jose Reyes comparison

Postby Yoda » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:23 am

thedude wrote:
Yoda wrote:
dclark0699 wrote:I'd say if I was going to compare him with anyone I'd pick BJ Upton.

You'd get a few more SB from Jacoby - but likely more power from BJ (just not this year)


I think even BJ is a stretch knowing that he has been playing hurt all season.



Well Jacoby's nasty wrist injury in June has been hurting his production for the last couple of months.


Yeah I'm sure that his wrist injury has a lot to do with his lack of running.
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Re: A Jacoby Ellsbury/Jose Reyes comparison

Postby J35J » Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:16 am

Yoda wrote:Yeah I'm sure that his wrist injury has a lot to do with his lack of running.


Wrist injuries do take away or limit the amount of head first sliding. You tend to be a little tenative sliding at all really. With that said I'm not worried about his speed or the number of steals he'll continue to get. I think with Ellsbury its all about if he can become a consistant .290+ hitter....which I think he can.

He'll still likely go earlier in drafts than where I would like to take him though.
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Re: A Jacoby Ellsbury/Jose Reyes comparison

Postby bigh0rt » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:41 am

I think this is a poor comparison on many levels, with respect to position eligibility as well as general skill sets and expected fantasy stat contributions.
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Re: A Jacoby Ellsbury/Jose Reyes comparison

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:21 pm

Yoda wrote:
thedude wrote:
Yoda wrote:
I think even BJ is a stretch knowing that he has been playing hurt all season.



Well Jacoby's nasty wrist injury in June has been hurting his production for the last couple of months.


Yeah I'm sure that his wrist injury has a lot to do with his lack of running.

Can't run if you can't get on base...

I think the article raises a very valid point about Ellsbury's hitting approach. He often looks overmatched at the plate and he tends to swing at just about everything. I think if he can refine his hitting and continue to develop - let's not forget that this is a young kid here who was put on the fast track to the Show - he will have more value in the longterm and maybe be more of an Ichiro-like player instead of Pierre. I don't think he's ever going to be a .330-.340 hitter but if he can flirt with .300-.310 regularly, show better plate discipline and raise hell on the basepaths while playing gold glove caliber defense in CF, I'll take it.

Of course, in this situation, I think he is one of those players who will be more valuable in real life than he will in fantasy circles...
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Re: A Jacoby Ellsbury/Jose Reyes comparison

Postby Yoda » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:24 pm

There certainly seems to be a lot of wishful thinking and what if's involved in Ellsbury discussions. Someone actually starting a thread comparing Ellsbury to a perennial top 10 draft pick just goes to show how overrated he really is. I'll gladly take a pass on him for the next 5 years unless he tanks and becomes a late round pick.
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Re: A Jacoby Ellsbury/Jose Reyes comparison

Postby Yoda » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:30 pm

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