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Brad Penny - The Rest of the Way...

Postby Super Manny » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:37 pm

Taking a cue from the Marcum and Kershaw threads, how about Brad Penny? What is the Cafe consensus on what's in-store for the Dodgers' starter over the rest of the season...? :-?

Despite the brutal start this year (5-9, 5.88 ERA), we can't forget that Penny is only one season removed from a 3.03 ERA and is the owner of consecutive 16-win seasons. Slated to return from the DL and take the mound on August 8th against the Giants, Penny made a rehab start tonight for AAA Las Vegas; here's the line:

4.0 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K (55 pitches, 44 strikes)

Thoughts...? ;-D
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Re: Brad Penny - The Rest of the Way...

Postby Super Manny » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:53 pm

FWIW, they just said on the Dodgers broadcast that Penny was clocked at 98 MPH tonight...

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Re: Brad Penny - The Rest of the Way...

Postby zhutou » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:55 pm

he's not that good of a pitcher. he doesn't k enough but walks hitters a lot, giving him a terrible k/bb ratio. he started off hot last year but came back to earth over the last few months. i wouldn't expect too much.
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Re: Brad Penny - The Rest of the Way...

Postby StarsNPinstripes » Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:02 pm

Vin Scully also pointed out that he hit 98 on the gun.He's scheduled to start Friday @ SF and his projected schedule is not imposing:
8/8-@SF
8/13-Phil
8/19-Col
8/24-@Phil
8/29@Az
9/3-SD
9/9-@SD
9/15-@Pit
9/20-SF
9/26-@SF

Given this schedule and him not pitching for two months(he's rested so his second half swoon are less concerning) I think I'd roll the dice here.
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Re: Brad Penny - The Rest of the Way...

Postby ataraxia » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:27 am

Hasn't he also been a pretty bad pitcher in the second half, historically? :-?
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Re: Brad Penny - The Rest of the Way...

Postby Super Manny » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:18 am

ataraxia wrote:Hasn't he also been a pretty bad pitcher in the second half, historically? :-?

StarsNPinstripes wrote:Given this schedule and him not pitching for two months(he's rested so his second half swoon are less concerning)...


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2003 - 13 starts (79.2 IP), 6-4, 53 K, 3.50 ERA, 1.13 WHIP
2004 - 6 starts (27.2 IP), 1-3, 12 K, 2.93 ERA, 1.19 WHIP
2005 - 14 starts (78.1 IP), 2-4, 66 K, 4.48 ERA, 1.42 WHIP
2006 - 15 starts (80.2 IP), 6-7, 66 K, 6.25 ERA, 1.60 WHIP
2007 - 15 starts (91.1 IP), 6-3, 53 K, 3.84 ERA, 1.46 WHIP
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CAREER ('00 - '07) - 95 starts (558 IP), 33-32, 399 K, 4.23 ERA, 1.34 WHIP
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Re: Brad Penny - The Rest of the Way...

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:43 pm

Last year, Penny didn't have the disastrous second half that sullied his overall numbers in '06. Much of it had to do with better stamina and arm strength conditioning. This season, his velocity has been a bit down. The ability for Penny to hit 95-98 would be nice but keep in mind his HR rate was abnormally low last year and he's had a big-time correction in that so far. Easy to pin that on the lack of velocity but generally Penny hasn't been able to go deep into games that frequently (last year he managed to though) because that cut fastball would just flatten over the plate for foulballs every so often.

I'd temper my expectations for Penny but I'd keep tabs on him the first couple of starts.
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Re: Brad Penny - The Rest of the Way...

Postby TheA'sFatLeadoffMan » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:07 am

I don't know how much 2nd half success or lack there of translates when the guy has barely even pitched a 1st half, I don't have any #'s on this, but if they did it would indicate the trend is all mental which seems counterintuitive to the situation.
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Re: Brad Penny - The Rest of the Way...

Postby buffalobillsrul2002 » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:11 am

Kind of a scary line from Penny tonight:

5 IP 1 ER 1 H 3 BB 0 K 79 pitches

I say scary because 3 BB and 0 K is not good, and 1 H per 5 IP is obviously completely unsustainable....

Did anybody actually see the game? How'd he do?
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