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Postby HOOTIE » Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:15 am

twentysix wrote:along the same idea, shouldn't you're best 3B play 3B. It makes sense to me to ask the superior of the 2 fielders to transition to a new position. if you're saying Jeter's no good at SS, then you'd have to assume he'd be God-awful if he had to learn an entirely new position.

The numbers for Jeter are bad, you can't argue numbers. However, have you seen Jeter play? Do you ever see him botch plays he should make? Hardly ever. Do you ever see him sail a ball over the head of the 1B or into the dugout? Hardly ever. Do you ever see him go to his right, out to the outfield grass, backhand a grounder, jump, spin, and fire a strike to beat the runner at 1st? All the time.


Well, i hope NY keeps DJ at ss. Those extra balls that get through will lead to extra runs, and maybe extra losses. Not much you say, true. But sometimes it only takes one game.

TWENTYSIX you say the numbers are bad, and you can't argue them. Then you totally disregard everything you stated, with the eyes argument.
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:07 am

Jeter is one of, if not the worst defensive SS in baseball. Sure he makes most of the plays that he gets to, which aren't many by MLB standards. I don't have all the range factors and fancy stuff but I've seen it posted, and I'm sure Hootie has it in his memory bank, and Jeter is not very good.

I'm not saying moving him to 3B is the right answer, but a correct opinion with false premises is a bad argument. Which you seem to have. They aren't keeping Jeter at SS because he's good defensively. He's horrible. It's a "lesser of two evils" situation. You know, like the Presidential Election.
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Postby polyphonic » Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:30 am

The real answer isn't to move Jeter to 3b, it's to move Jeter to 2b.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:08 am

As a Red Sox fan, I delight in seeing the Yankees put out a less-than-perfect defensive alignment.
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Postby EugeneStyles » Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:14 am

polyphonic... you're right. Jeter moving to 2b would be ideal for the Yankees. Arod stays at short, and Miguel Cairo covers third. Defensively, Jeter seems like a prototypical 2B. I don't understand when they haven't thought of this yet, unless maybe Jeter went crying to Steinbrenner that he refuses to switch positions no matter what.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:20 am

The petition is a joke. Then again so is Jeter's range.
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Postby CPL » Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:28 pm

The debate the petition brings up perfectly represents the divide between old school baseball which is all about veteran entitlement, clubhouse favorites and traditional tools scouting and the sabermetric, Moneyball, stat-based new school of thought that enabled the A's to make the playoffs year after year despite a small payroll.

If you think Jeter should stay, then you're likely to belong to the former school. If you think Jeter should move based on the range factor numbers, then you're of the new school. But either way, I couldn't think of a more pertinent topic for debate.
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Postby bravelaker » Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:00 pm

honestly does it really matter they are gonna outscore most teams anyway.
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Postby HOOTIE » Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:37 am

bravelaker wrote:honestly does it really matter they are gonna outscore most teams anyway.


You never know what will matter? It might not matter, but then again, it could cost a critical game somewhere. Why take the chance?
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Postby jpgretzky15 » Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:04 am

Spartans Rule wrote:LOL @ fans telling professionals how to do their jobs.


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