stumpak wrote:The reputation the Pirates are acquiring is interesting. The cry all summer about how they want multiple elite prospects for Nady, Bay or Marte, and then they dump both Marte and Nady for a package that is highlighted by a very questionable guy like Tabata. They did the same thing 2 years ago when they moved Perez.
Frankly, I am surprised that they could not get a little bit more. Given Marte's impending option, I understand trading him, but why move Nady for pennies on the dollar when you have him another year? I would have tried to end this season on a high note (close to .500) by keepiong Nady. They always coudl have traded him next year. I know McCutcheon is in the wings, but just move Nady to 1B and move LaRoche.
Not as bad as the Rauch trade, but far from good for the Pirates and great for the Yankees.
I think LaRoche is better than Nady.
I hope you're not basing that on his 30 HR season. LaRoche is only good after June. He's like Ryan Howard, minus any amount of big-time power. He strikes out with his dumb looking long swing all the time. He's over paid. Arbitration should take money away from him. Even with Mike Gonzales never playing, the Braves got the better of that trade. At least Nady was clutch, when he wasn't banged up.
It's such a shame. If you put together 2007's pitching & 2008's hitting, the Pirates would be an average or even an above-average team. Plus, I wish that Ronny Paulino didn't crap out so we could trade him too. That smiley no-defense, no-offense bum.
This really seems like a decent deal from both sides. One could argue that maybe the Pirates should have gotten one more mediocre prospect back, but Ohlendorf could be great if he developed a second pitch, McCuthcen could be a middle-of-the-rotation guy with his good control. Tabata's pretty good, and Karstens is probably AAAA. Not a terrible haul for the Pirates, and better than the draft picks they could've gotten for both these guys.... Yanks, meanwhile, can spare all these prospects. Losing Tabats hurts, but is worth Nady/Marte....
acsguitar wrote:Nice: The pirates are one of a few teams I pay Zero attention to. Didn't he start slow?
He started off producing like a 10th rounder, and his RBI's still slightly lower than I've hoped for. The problem was that he's mostly hit his extra base hits when runners weren't on base, so that's hampered the number a bit. Otherwise, he's been fairly "consistent' (relative to Jason Bay of past) throughout.