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Re: Midseason Keeper Rankings

Postby Field » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:12 pm

Higher ;-D , Lower :-t

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1 Hanley- Immense all around talent at his age spells the top hitter.

2 A-Rod- Hard not to feel safe with this guy

3 Pujols- Injuries aside hes as solid as they come. Still has some prime yearsleft.

4 Utley- That power at 2B is unheard of and with the lineup he gets plenty of other numbers.

:-t 5 Holliday- Hints of a move out of Colorado hurt but with the steals increase he has become a 5x5 monster

6 Braun- No sophmore slump, just continues his incredible entry into the bigs with another fine
showing thusfar

7 Wright- Great 5 category production, nothing not to like

8 Reyes- A little inconsistent but the numbers keep getting there in the end, and they are nice.

:-t 9 Berkman - Huge spike across the board looks like hes hit his prime. Only a little injury problem can stop him from having his bets year ever.

10 Sizemore- HR, SB, Runs, and RBI he does it all. The average is the only thing keeping him from being higher on this list

11 Howard - Like Sizemore, average is the only category holding this beast off the top 10.

12 Hamilton- WOW. Not much to say but the 1st pick overall has finally arrived and it is nice.

13 Kinsler- Great across the board talent at a tough position, and such a young guy. Looking for big things for years to come from him.

14 Prince- Kind of a down year but talent like his doesn’t disapper, watch out for a monster second half as his team contends for the Nl Central Title

;-D 15 M-Cab- Slow start in adjusting to the AL and Detroit, but his July shows how good he can be, look for a big second half and possible return to the top 10 by years end.

16 Beltran- Keeps on truckin in a great lineup.

17 Carlos Lee- See Beltran

18 Crawford- Up and down season so far but the end result always looks nice.

:-t 19 A-Ram See no. 17/18

20 Chipper - A monster first two months is carrying his overall numbers but as long as he is injury free he is tough to beat.

21 Upton- Lack of power a little scary but if he can end up with 12-15 HR, he easily justifies top 25 status.

:-t 22 McLouth- Out of nowhere and not disappearing yet. Still young, he looks like a winner.

23 Quenti- See above.

;-D 24 Rollins- Injuries and mediocre play plop young james near the bottom of this list. Just not enough of a track record to assume he will return to top form.

;-D 25 Ad. Gonzalez- Young and good. Too bad he is in SD.



:-t 1 Santana- He is still the best.

2 Webb- A little stumble in June but is as consistent as anyone these days, and consistency rules.

3 Lincecum- The Freak is just that, and in baseball that means good.

4 Hamels- Some hard luck losses that could have been wins keep his umbers from being amazing. Still
so young and talented he is a good one to hang on to.

;-D 5 Peavy- Injury bug returning scaress a bit, have to temper expectations again.

6 Halladay - Resurgence isnt unexpected, and he has the talent to maintain for a few more years.

7 Sabathia - The league switch has been nice so far and his K rate is awesome.

:-t 8 Haren- Just needs to put a nice 2nd half together to solidify his spot here.

9 Kazmir- The lefty has his bumps but in the end he is dominant.

10 Verlander- Tough start but has been phenominal lately, right back to where he was preseason

11 Beckett- Hard to lose in Boston and he takes advantage. Nothing not to like here.

12 Volquez- Finally reaches his potential in a big way. Young kid could be a star for years to come.

:-t 13 C. Lee- Out of nowhere it’s a little hard to believe, but he even dazzled in the ASG, the guy is legit

14 Sheets- Keep the injuries away and watch him cimb this list

15 King Felix- Seattle blows but hes doing everything he can. A better team and he could be top 5.


Phillips and Hart certainly deserve mention in the top 25 and I think Billingsley should be a top 15 pitcher heading into 2009.
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Re: Midseason Keeper Rankings

Postby The Artful Dodger » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:33 pm

Off the top of my head:

Hitters:
1. Hanley Ramirez
2. Alex Rodriguez
3. Albert Pujols
4. Chase Utley
5. David Wright
6. Ryan Braun
7. Jose Reyes
8. Miguel Cabrera
9. Matt Holliday
10. Grady Sizemore
11. Josh Hamilton
12. Ian Kinsler
13. Alfonso Soriano
14. Ryan Howard
15. Prince Fielder
16. Jimmy Rollins
17. Brandon Phillips
18. Carl Crawford
19. Lance Berkman
20. Carlos Beltran
21. B.J. Upton
22. Mark Teixeira
23. David Ortiz
24. Carlos Lee
25. Justin Morneau

Just missing out: Adrian Gonzalez

Pitchers:
1. Johan Santana
2. Jake Peavy
3. Brandon Webb
4. Tim Lincecum
5. Cole Hamels
6. Scott Kazmir
7. CC Sabathia
8. John Lackey
9. Josh Beckett
10. Roy Halladay
11. Dan Haren
12. Felix Hernandez
13. Justin Verlander
14. Edinson Volquez
15. Ben Sheets

Missing out: Carlos Zambrano
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Re: Midseason Keeper Rankings

Postby Havok1517 » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:52 pm

FWI, McLouth and Cliff Lee belong on no keeper lists imo. You're giving too much credence to what they did in the 1st half. Sorry, but there are a ton more guys I'd rather keep.
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Re: Midseason Keeper Rankings

Postby Snakes Gould » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm

Havok1517 wrote:FWI, McLouth and Cliff Lee belong on no keeper lists imo. You're giving too much credence to what they did in the 1st half. Sorry, but there are a ton more guys I'd rather keep.


how many? i think you'd be silly not to include them in at least a top 100-150 list.
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Re: Midseason Keeper Rankings

Postby jfg » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:04 am

I don't get why these keeper lists are always so short. Everybody knows who the top 25-30 keepers are and the only reason you need to know their rank is for trading purposes. If one of those players is on your team it's a no-brainer that you're keeping them. It's the next 50-75 where it starts to get tricky. Even in leagues that keep only 5 guys, that 5th guy can be a difficult choice. The top 3 are rarely tough choices unless your team is stacked.
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Re: Midseason Keeper Rankings

Postby Snakes Gould » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:07 am

jfg wrote:I don't get why these keeper lists are always so short. Everybody knows who the top 25-30 keepers are and the only reason you need to know their rank is for trading purposes. If one of those players is on your team it's a no-brainer that you're keeping them. It's the next 50-75 where it starts to get tricky. Even in leagues that keep only 5 guys, that 5th guy can be a difficult choice. The top 3 are rarely tough choices unless your team is stacked.


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Re: Midseason Keeper Rankings

Postby rjforlife » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:51 am

So does anyone has a top 100 keeper list they would like to throw up here? It would be very helpful and I am sure everyone would like to see it. I am working on one, but it would be nice to see how other people are looking at it as well.
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Re: Midseason Keeper Rankings

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:40 am

Alright, here's a place to start. Some dynasty rankings done back in January.

1 Hanley Ramirez
2 David Wright
3 Miguel Cabrera
4 Albert Pujols
5 Jose Reyes
6 Matt Holliday
7 Chase Utley
8 Prince Fielder
9 Alex Rodriguez
10 Ryan Howard
11 Ryan Braun
12 Grady Sizemore
13 Carl Crawford
14 Mark Teixeira
15 Jake Peavy
16 Johan Santana
17 Jimmy Rollins
18 BJ Upton
19 Carlos Beltran
20 Justin Morneau
21 Troy Tulowitzki
22 Alex Rios
23 Brandon Phillips
24 Alfonso Soriano
25 David Ortiz
26 Vlad Guerrero
27 Curtis Granderson
28 Nick Markakis
29 Carlos Lee
30 Cole Hamels
31 Aramis Ramirez
32 CC Sabathia
33 Russell Martin
34 Josh Beckett
35 Brandon Webb
36 Ichiro Suzuki
37 Erik Bedard
38 Adam Dunn
39 Chris Young
40 Scott Kazmir
41 Justin Verlander
42 Travis Hafner
43 Dan Haren
44 Ryan Zimmerman
45 Felix Hernandez
46 Corey Hart
47 Delmon Young
48 Alex Gordon
49 Hunter Pence
50 Victor Martinez
51 Carlos Zambrano
52 Robinson Cano
53 Joe Mauer
54 Tim Lincecum
55 Magglio Ordonez
56 Justin Upton
57 Matt Kemp
58 Yovani Gallardo
59 Derrek Lee
60 Billy Butler
61 Jonathan Papelbon
62 Matt Cain
63 John Lackey
64 Brian McCann
65 Francisco Liriano
66 Ian Kinsler
67 Phillip Hughes
68 Garrett Atkins
69 Josh Hamilton
70 Jeff Francoeur
71 Daisuke Matsuzaka
72 Brian Roberts
73 Chad Billingsly
74 Fransisco Rodriguez
75 Manny Ramirez
76 Cameron Maybin
77 Bobby Abreu
78 Adrian Gonzalez
79 Jeremy Hermida
80 JJ Putz
81 Chone Figgins
82 Carlos Guillen
83 Eric Byrnes
84 Rickie Weeks
85 Chipper Jones
86 Lance Berkman
87 Roy Oswalt
88 Joe Nathan
89 Roy Halladay
90 Jeremy Bonderman
91 Torii Hunter
92 Howie Kendrick
93 Aaron Harang
94 Jarrod Saltalmacchia
95 Jered Weaver
96 John Smoltz
97 Rich Hill
98 Stephen Drew
99 Mike Lowell
100 Joba Chamberlain
101 Carlos Pena
102 Jay Bruce
103 Chris R Young
104 Clay Buchholz
105 Billy Wagner
106 Jim Thome
107 Nick Swisher
108 Derek Jeter
109 Miguel Tejada
110 Ben Sheets
111 Jorge Posada
112 John Maine
113 Colby Rasmus
114 Jason Bay
115 Evan Longoria
116 Bobby Jenks
117 Matt Garza
118 Kelvim Escobar
119 Jose Valverde
120 Gary Sheffield
121 Andruw Jones
122 Dan Uggla
123 Fausto Carmona
124 Fransisco Cordero
125 Kelly Johnson
126 David Price
127 Brad Hawpe
128 Taiko Saito
129 Ian Snell
130 Clayton Kershaw
131 Hideki Matsui
132 Casey Kotchman
133 Felix Pie
134 Matt Wieters
135 Lastings Milledge
136 Michael Young
137 JJ Hardy
138 Conor Jackson
139 Rocco Baldelli
140 Javier Vazquez
141 Kevin Youkilis
142 Rich Harden
143 Jacoby Ellsbury
144 James Shields
145 Oliver Perez
146 Travis Snider
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Re: Midseason Keeper Rankings

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:45 am

I'll thumb down/up players on my own list before anyone else does. :-D

Omaha Red Sox wrote:Alright, here's a place to start. Some dynasty rankings done back in January.

1 Hanley Ramirez
2 David Wright
3 Miguel Cabrera
4 Albert Pujols
5 Jose Reyes
6 Matt Holliday
7 Chase Utley
8 Prince Fielder :-t
9 Alex Rodriguez ;-D
10 Ryan Howard
11 Ryan Braun
12 Grady Sizemore
13 Carl Crawford
14 Mark Teixeira
15 Jake Peavy :-t
16 Johan Santana :-t
17 Jimmy Rollins
18 BJ Upton :-t
19 Carlos Beltran
20 Justin Morneau
21 Troy Tulowitzki
22 Alex Rios :-t
23 Brandon Phillips
24 Alfonso Soriano
25 David Ortiz
26 Vlad Guerrero
27 Curtis Granderson :-t
28 Nick Markakis
29 Carlos Lee
30 Cole Hamels
31 Aramis Ramirez
32 CC Sabathia ;-D
33 Russell Martin :-t
34 Josh Beckett
35 Brandon Webb ;-D
36 Ichiro Suzuki :-t
37 Erik Bedard :-t
38 Adam Dunn :-t
39 Chris Young :-t
40 Scott Kazmir
41 Justin Verlander ;-D
42 Travis Hafner :-t
43 Dan Haren
44 Ryan Zimmerman
45 Felix Hernandez
46 Corey Hart ;-D
47 Delmon Young
48 Alex Gordon
49 Hunter Pence
50 Victor Martinez :-t
51 Carlos Zambrano ;-D
52 Robinson Cano
53 Joe Mauer
54 Tim Lincecum ;-D
55 Magglio Ordonez :-t
56 Justin Upton
57 Matt Kemp
58 Yovani Gallardo
59 Derrek Lee
60 Billy Butler
61 Jonathan Papelbon
62 Matt Cain ;-D
63 John Lackey
64 Brian McCann ;-D
65 Francisco Liriano
66 Ian Kinsler ;-D
67 Phillip Hughes
68 Garrett Atkins
69 Josh Hamilton ;-D
70 Jeff Francoeur
71 Daisuke Matsuzaka
72 Brian Roberts ;-D
73 Chad Billingsly ;-D
74 Fransisco Rodriguez
75 Manny Ramirez
76 Cameron Maybin
77 Bobby Abreu
78 Adrian Gonzalez ;-D
79 Jeremy Hermida
80 JJ Putz
81 Chone Figgins
82 Carlos Guillen
83 Eric Byrnes :-t
84 Rickie Weeks ;-D
85 Chipper Jones
86 Lance Berkman ;-D
87 Roy Oswalt
88 Joe Nathan
89 Roy Halladay ;-D
90 Jeremy Bonderman :-t
91 Torii Hunter
92 Howie Kendrick
93 Aaron Harang
94 Jarrod Saltalmacchia
95 Jered Weaver
96 John Smoltz
97 Rich Hill
98 Stephen Drew
99 Mike Lowell
100 Joba Chamberlain ;-D
101 Carlos Pena
102 Jay Bruce ;-D
103 Chris R Young
104 Clay Buchholz ;-D
105 Billy Wagner
106 Jim Thome
107 Nick Swisher
108 Derek Jeter
109 Miguel Tejada
110 Ben Sheets
111 Jorge Posada :-t
112 John Maine
113 Colby Rasmus
114 Jason Bay ;-D
115 Evan Longoria ;-D
116 Bobby Jenks
117 Matt Garza ;-D
118 Kelvim Escobar
119 Jose Valverde
120 Gary Sheffield
121 Andruw Jones
122 Dan Uggla ;-D
123 Fausto Carmona
124 Fransisco Cordero
125 Kelly Johnson
126 David Price ;-D
127 Brad Hawpe
128 Taiko Saito
129 Ian Snell
130 Clayton Kershaw ;-D
131 Hideki Matsui
132 Casey Kotchman
133 Felix Pie
134 Matt Wieters ;-D
135 Lastings Milledge
136 Michael Young
137 JJ Hardy
138 Conor Jackson
139 Rocco Baldelli
140 Javier Vazquez
141 Kevin Youkilis
142 Rich Harden
143 Jacoby Ellsbury ;-D
144 James Shields
145 Oliver Perez
146 Travis Snider
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Re: Midseason Keeper Rankings

Postby jswede » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:18 pm

Since CC's horrible 1st four starts - since around 4/20 - he's got 13 QS in 17 starts (only 4 earned runs ea. in those other 4 starts). This with a 2.10 era and a 1.00 whip. 133k and 26bb in 128 innings.

He turns 28 tomorrow and is coming off a Cy Young. He's my #1 SP keeper by a good bit.
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