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Re: Javier Vazquez

Postby Yoda » Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:07 pm

zepfan wrote:He had been pretty good for Montreal prior to 2004 so it's not like 2007 came out of nowhere really. He is just wildly inconsistent not only from year to year but also from start to start. Basically expect inconsistency and you won't be shocked when he gets shelled just as when he throws a gem. Although his WHIP is higher now than it has been since 2000 so that is a little concerning. Still, he's just about impossible to predict unless this is the beginning of a downward career trend. He's still young enuogh and has remained healthy most of his career so I still expect him to bounce back at some point. Whether it's this year or not. :-S


04, 05, 06 were very similar and then he put together a good season in 07. 08 looks more in line with 04-06. Number prior to 04 is virtually meaningless since that was over 5 years ago and players change.
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Re: Javier Vazquez

Postby fbc_fan » Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:24 pm

the two good years he had in montreal were when his baa and babip were significantly lower than his career averages for those stats. this was also the case for 2007.

i'm also guessing that olympic stadium masked his flyball tendencies a bit more than either arizona's or chicago's ballparks do.
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Re: Javier Vazquez

Postby daullaz » Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:49 pm

His K/BB and K/9 numbers are still good despite the HRs, so I'm holding onto him. I would definitely sit him against the tougher, HR-hitting teams though.
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Re: Javier Vazquez

Postby Sevon » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:51 pm

Too Funny. He is so killing me...
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Re: Javier Vazquez

Postby DbacksRback » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:55 pm

He is a roller coaster ride of a pitcher if there is one :-°
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Re: Javier Vazquez

Postby ataraxia » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:17 am

DbacksRback wrote:He is a roller coaster ride of a pitcher if there is one :-°


For sure. And I'm too scared to bench him. !+)
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Re: Javier Vazquez

Postby stumpak » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:52 am

Yoda wrote:He is one of those guys that always tends to have great peripherals but doesn't always translate to good results. Pitchers who are in the strike zone will obviously get hit more. 2007 was not very different from any other years for Javy except that he was a bit luckier. Bonderman, Bush are also pitchers that almost always seem to have good peripherals that do not translate to good results.


Part the explanation in all three cases is a propensity for the big inning. Having owned all of these guys in recent years I cannot tell you how many times they would turn in 5 near-perfect innings bookending a 6 run inning. This means that when they let guys on base, runs result more frequently than with a more a consistent pitcher.

Vasquez has also had historical issues with tipping his pitches.
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