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Which Record Will Not Be Broken

Chief Wilson’s 36 triples in a single season
2
1%
Ray Chapman’s single-season sacrifice bunt record
1
1%
75 complete games in one season, by Will White
72
50%
Ty Cobb’s career batting average
0
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Nolan Ryan’s seven career no-hitters
4
3%
New York Yankees five straight World Series titles
2
1%
Cy Young’s 511 victories and 749 complete games
52
36%
Cal Ripken’s 2,632 conseuctive-games played streak
8
6%
Johnny Vander Meer’s two consecutive no-hitters
4
3%
 
Total votes : 145

Re: Unbreakable Records

Postby Tavish » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:54 am

From the Cafe Vote-Off for modern baseball records (starting in 1941 with Williams batting .406 and DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak):

1. 7 no-hitters - Nolan Ryan
2. 2632 Consecutive games played - Cal Ripken (1982-1998)
3. 59 Consecutive Scoreless Innings - Orel Hershiser (1988)
4. 130 SB - Rickey Henderson (1982)
5. 56 game hit streak - Joe DiMaggio (1941)
6. 29 Wins - Hal Newhouser (1944)
7. 7 Cy Young Awards - Roger Clemens
8. 7 MVP awards - Barry Bonds
9. .406 BA - Ted Williams (1941)
10. 383 Strikeouts - Nolan Ryan (1973)
11. 0.74 WHIP - Pedro Martinez (2000)
12. 1.12 ERA - Bob Gibson (1968)
13. 23 Triples - Dale Mitchell (1949)
14. 262 Hits - Ichiro Suzuki (2004)
15. 73 HR - Barry Bonds (2001)
16. 165 RBI - Manny Ramirez (1999)
17. 84 Consecutive Saves - Eric Gagne (2002 - 2004)
18. 59 Doubles - Todd Helton (2000)
19. 152 Runs - Jeff Bagwell (2000)
20. 57 Saves - Bobby Thigpen (1990)


If you go back to pre-modern era records most of those will never be broken and don't really have a chance to be broken, the style of the game has changed too much.
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Re: Unbreakable Records

Postby Tavish » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:06 pm

Also, from that list of modern records, the ones that are possibly in danger this season:

Todd Helton: 59 Doubles (Brian roberts on pace for 58)

Bobby Thigpen: 57 Saves (K-Rod on pace for 64)

Ted Williams: .406 BA (Chipper hitting .394)

Manny Ramirez: 165 RBI (Hamilton on pace for 158)
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Re: Unbreakable Records

Postby Dan Lambskin » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:41 pm

Tavish wrote:From the Cafe Vote-Off for modern baseball records (starting in 1941 with Williams batting .406 and DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak):

1. 7 no-hitters - Nolan Ryan
2. 2632 Consecutive games played - Cal Ripken (1982-1998)
3. 59 Consecutive Scoreless Innings - Orel Hershiser (1988)
4. 130 SB - Rickey Henderson (1982)
5. 56 game hit streak - Joe DiMaggio (1941)
6. 29 Wins - Hal Newhouser (1944)
7. 7 Cy Young Awards - Roger Clemens
8. 7 MVP awards - Barry Bonds
9. .406 BA - Ted Williams (1941)
10. 383 Strikeouts - Nolan Ryan (1973)
11. 0.74 WHIP - Pedro Martinez (2000)
12. 1.12 ERA - Bob Gibson (1968)
13. 23 Triples - Dale Mitchell (1949)
14. 262 Hits - Ichiro Suzuki (2004)
15. 73 HR - Barry Bonds (2001)
16. 165 RBI - Manny Ramirez (1999)
17. 84 Consecutive Saves - Eric Gagne (2002 - 2004)
18. 59 Doubles - Todd Helton (2000)
19. 152 Runs - Jeff Bagwell (2000)
20. 57 Saves - Bobby Thigpen (1990)


If you go back to pre-modern era records most of those will never be broken and don't really have a chance to be broken, the style of the game has changed too much.


i forget, why wasnt Denny McLain's 30 Wins in 68 on there instead of Newhouser's 29? was it because Denny is such a scumbag?
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Re: Unbreakable Records

Postby Yoda » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:44 pm

Omaha Red Sox wrote:
Yoda wrote:Joe D's single season hit streak.


Thought about that one, but Pete Rose came close. I'm thinking it's more beatable than the 9 I put to a vote.


44 and 56 are not close. At least IMO.
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Re: Unbreakable Records

Postby NorthSider2 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:44 pm

I went with Cy Young for the amount of wins he had. Back then was a pitcher friendly and now guys are stronger and hit the ball farther and there isnt an ACTIVE dominate pitcher right now that will come close to breaking it
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Re: Unbreakable Records

Postby Phatferd » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:59 pm

This is hard. There are more than two out of that list that I think cannot be touched. I went with Complete Games and Cal Ripken. I just don't think that players are going to play for 18 seasons without having a day off or not getting injured. Managers are so afraid of losing their jobs they give their star players a day off here and there. Plus they are making tens of millions of dollars a year and they can't afford to go down to injury.
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Re: Unbreakable Records

Postby NorthSider2 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:02 pm

Phatferd wrote:This is hard. There are more than two out of that list that I think cannot be touched. I went with Complete Games and Cal Ripken. I just don't think that players are going to play for 18 seasons without having a day off or not getting injured. Managers are so afraid of losing their jobs they give their star players a day off here and there. Plus they are making tens of millions of dollars a year and they can't afford to go down to injury.


I was debating between Cy Young and that one. I agree with you on that because look at Sammy Sosa, he sneezed which caused his back to hurt :-t They feel the slightest pain they sit
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Re: Unbreakable Records

Postby mclusky » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:09 pm

Phatferd wrote:This is hard. There are more than two out of that list that I think cannot be touched. I went with Complete Games and Cal Ripken. I just don't think that players are going to play for 18 seasons without having a day off or not getting injured. Managers are so afraid of losing their jobs they give their star players a day off here and there. Plus they are making tens of millions of dollars a year and they can't afford to go down to injury.

What's funny is that this is exactly the same argument that people used to make when arguing that Lou Gehrig's record was unbreakable, except put "millions" in place of "tens of millions."
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Re: Unbreakable Records

Postby Neato Torpedo » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:20 pm

What about Carlos Delgado's 2-HR game? :-) You'd have to hit THREE homers in a game to break that record. 8-o
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Re: Unbreakable Records

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:22 pm

Yoda wrote:
Omaha Red Sox wrote:
Yoda wrote:Joe D's single season hit streak.


Thought about that one, but Pete Rose came close. I'm thinking it's more beatable than the 9 I put to a vote.


44 and 56 are not close. At least IMO.


I thought it was a lot closer than anyone else will ever get, in relative terms, to the 9 I included.

Second place

Walter Johnson's 417 to Cy Young's 511 wins.
Roger Hornsby's .359 to Ty Cobb's .367.
Lou Gehrig's 2,130 to Cal Ripken's 2,632.
Dave Orr's and Heinie Reitz's 31 to Chief Wilson's 36 triples.
Bill Bradley's 60 to Ray Chapman's 67 sac bunts.
Charley Radbourn's 73 to Will White's 75 complete games.
Sandy Koufax's 4 to Nolan Ryan's 7 no-hitters.
'36-'39 Yankee's 4 to the '49-'53 Yankee's 7 consecutive World Series wins.



A few other records that we might never see broken:

Nolan Ryan's 5,714 strikeouts.
Rickey Henderson's 130 stolen bases in a season.
Orel Hershiser's 59 consecutive scoreless innings.
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