Unbreakable Records

[Tavish]

From the Cafe Vote-Off for modern baseball records (starting in 1941 with Williams batting .406 and DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak):

1. 7 no-hitters - Nolan Ryan
2. 2632 Consecutive games played - Cal Ripken (1982-1998)
3. 59 Consecutive Scoreless Innings - Orel Hershiser (1988)
4. 130 SB - Rickey Henderson (1982)
5. 56 game hit streak - Joe DiMaggio (1941)
6. 29 Wins - Hal Newhouser (1944)
7. 7 Cy Young Awards - Roger Clemens
8. 7 MVP awards - Barry Bonds
9. .406 BA - Ted Williams (1941)
10. 383 Strikeouts - Nolan Ryan (1973)
11. 0.74 WHIP - Pedro Martinez (2000)
12. 1.12 ERA - Bob Gibson (1968)
13. 23 Triples - Dale Mitchell (1949)
14. 262 Hits - Ichiro Suzuki (2004)
15. 73 HR - Barry Bonds (2001)
16. 165 RBI - Manny Ramirez (1999)
17. 84 Consecutive Saves - Eric Gagne (2002 - 2004)
18. 59 Doubles - Todd Helton (2000)
19. 152 Runs - Jeff Bagwell (2000)
20. 57 Saves - Bobby Thigpen (1990)

If you go back to pre-modern era records most of those will never be broken and don't really have a chance to be broken, the style of the game has changed too much.

[Tavish]

Also, from that list of modern records, the ones that are possibly in danger this season:

Todd Helton: 59 Doubles (Brian roberts on pace for 58)

Bobby Thigpen: 57 Saves (K-Rod on pace for 64)

Ted Williams: .406 BA (Chipper hitting .394)

Manny Ramirez: 165 RBI (Hamilton on pace for 158)

[Dan Lambskin]

From the Cafe Vote-Off for modern baseball records (starting in 1941 with Williams batting .406 and DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak):

1. 7 no-hitters - Nolan Ryan
2. 2632 Consecutive games played - Cal Ripken (1982-1998)
3. 59 Consecutive Scoreless Innings - Orel Hershiser (1988)
4. 130 SB - Rickey Henderson (1982)
5. 56 game hit streak - Joe DiMaggio (1941)
6. 29 Wins - Hal Newhouser (1944)
7. 7 Cy Young Awards - Roger Clemens
8. 7 MVP awards - Barry Bonds
9. .406 BA - Ted Williams (1941)
10. 383 Strikeouts - Nolan Ryan (1973)
11. 0.74 WHIP - Pedro Martinez (2000)
12. 1.12 ERA - Bob Gibson (1968)
13. 23 Triples - Dale Mitchell (1949)
14. 262 Hits - Ichiro Suzuki (2004)
15. 73 HR - Barry Bonds (2001)
16. 165 RBI - Manny Ramirez (1999)
17. 84 Consecutive Saves - Eric Gagne (2002 - 2004)
18. 59 Doubles - Todd Helton (2000)
19. 152 Runs - Jeff Bagwell (2000)
20. 57 Saves - Bobby Thigpen (1990)

If you go back to pre-modern era records most of those will never be broken and don't really have a chance to be broken, the style of the game has changed too much.

i forget, why wasnt Denny McLain's 30 Wins in 68 on there instead of Newhouser's 29? was it because Denny is such a scumbag?

[Yoda]

Joe D's single season hit streak.

Thought about that one, but Pete Rose came close. I'm thinking it's more beatable than the 9 I put to a vote.

44 and 56 are not close. At least IMO.

[NorthSider2]

I went with Cy Young for the amount of wins he had. Back then was a pitcher friendly and now guys are stronger and hit the ball farther and there isnt an ACTIVE dominate pitcher right now that will come close to breaking it

[Phatferd]

This is hard. There are more than two out of that list that I think cannot be touched. I went with Complete Games and Cal Ripken. I just don't think that players are going to play for 18 seasons without having a day off or not getting injured. Managers are so afraid of losing their jobs they give their star players a day off here and there. Plus they are making tens of millions of dollars a year and they can't afford to go down to injury.

[NorthSider2]

This is hard. There are more than two out of that list that I think cannot be touched. I went with Complete Games and Cal Ripken. I just don't think that players are going to play for 18 seasons without having a day off or not getting injured. Managers are so afraid of losing their jobs they give their star players a day off here and there. Plus they are making tens of millions of dollars a year and they can't afford to go down to injury.

I was debating between Cy Young and that one. I agree with you on that because look at Sammy Sosa, he sneezed which caused his back to hurt They feel the slightest pain they sit

[mclusky]

This is hard. There are more than two out of that list that I think cannot be touched. I went with Complete Games and Cal Ripken. I just don't think that players are going to play for 18 seasons without having a day off or not getting injured. Managers are so afraid of losing their jobs they give their star players a day off here and there. Plus they are making tens of millions of dollars a year and they can't afford to go down to injury.

What's funny is that this is exactly the same argument that people used to make when arguing that Lou Gehrig's record was unbreakable, except put "millions" in place of "tens of millions."

[Neato Torpedo]

What about Carlos Delgado's 2-HR game? You'd have to hit THREE homers in a game to break that record.

[Omaha Red Sox]

Joe D's single season hit streak.

Thought about that one, but Pete Rose came close. I'm thinking it's more beatable than the 9 I put to a vote.

44 and 56 are not close. At least IMO.

I thought it was a lot closer than anyone else will ever get, in relative terms, to the 9 I included.

Second place

Walter Johnson's 417 to Cy Young's 511 wins.
Roger Hornsby's .359 to Ty Cobb's .367.
Lou Gehrig's 2,130 to Cal Ripken's 2,632.
Dave Orr's and Heinie Reitz's 31 to Chief Wilson's 36 triples.
Bill Bradley's 60 to Ray Chapman's 67 sac bunts.
Charley Radbourn's 73 to Will White's 75 complete games.
Sandy Koufax's 4 to Nolan Ryan's 7 no-hitters.
'36-'39 Yankee's 4 to the '49-'53 Yankee's 7 consecutive World Series wins.



A few other records that we might never see broken:

Nolan Ryan's 5,714 strikeouts.
Rickey Henderson's 130 stolen bases in a season.
Orel Hershiser's 59 consecutive scoreless innings.