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by bigh0rt » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:57 pm
Yoda wrote:NZ Eff wrote:Yoda wrote:The only time I will even consider a pitcher's team is if two pitchers have nearly identical skill sets in which case I'll take the one on the better team in hopes for extra W's.

So what you're saying now is you do rate pitchers on wins.
No that is not what I am saying. Only when two pitchers have nearly identical skill sets will I even consider Ws. I look at age, track record, career progression, health history, role, competition, stuff, K, BB, HR, age, league, park, projectability all before I even consider what team the pitcher is on. Very rare that it ever comes down team.
I find it unnecessary to consider age twice.

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by Bobbleheadrusty » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:24 pm
Put them back in the pants boys.
You need to consider wins, as some players are put in position to get more wins then others. Good Offenses, Good defenses, how they manage pitch counts, all go into figuring out wins.
Look at some of the high pitch count guys, ones that take 15-20 pitches an inning. They are less likely (on average) to get wins, since they tend to leave games earlier (limiting offenses options.
With Closers or RP its similar. Teams that tend to be high scoring with bad SP tend to have a lot of relief wins, same with low scoring offenses and good sp. Look at the Orioles this year, the relievers have 16 wins already, and the starters only 22. Thats thanks to a lot of late comebacks (by the Orioles and their opponents).
RP wins though are hard to predict pre-season, since we wont know how teams shake out.
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