moochman wrote:Chacon blew his cool for sure, but the GM had no place confronting a player. GM yells at manager, manager yells at player. They should both be fined and suspended for their childish and unprofessional behavior.
I totally disagree with that. The GM is still his boss. Up one, two or more levels doesn't matter.
moochman wrote:Chacon blew his cool for sure, but the GM had no place confronting a player. GM yells at manager, manager yells at player. They should both be fined and suspended for their childish and unprofessional behavior.
I totally disagree with that. The GM is still his boss. Up one, two or more levels doesn't matter.
I agree with this. And regardless, there is a difference between yelling at someone and physically assaulting them. Wade could have had him arrested. Expect to see Chacon moved within the next few days, I can't see a GM keeping a player who attacked him in the system.
"This guy leads the league in most offensive categories, including nose hair..."
I agree. However, the boss should never have to yell at his employees. Its truly the sign of a really bad boss. If possible, my opinion of Wade just went even lower.
stevekahuda wrote:I agree. However, the boss should never have to yell at his employees. Its truly the sign of a really bad boss. If possible, my opinion of Wade just went even lower.
I agree with this point. When you hold the employment of a player in your hands, verbally abusing them is beneath you.
Obviously, Chacon was wrong, but as I said earlier, Wade screwed the pooch on this one, too.
stevekahuda wrote:I agree. However, the boss should never have to yell at his employees. Its truly the sign of a really bad boss. If possible, my opinion of Wade just went even lower.
Absolutley. I hate it when bosses yell cause I think it is a horrible way to got about business.
I don't care if I am the GM of a baseball team or the shiftleader at McDonalds. I would never yell at and/or belittle person in front of his/her co-workers. First, it does nothing to improve the performance of the employee. Second, theres a decent shot that the employee will tell me to "f*ck off" and/or punch me in the face.
Precise wrote:I don't care if I am the GM of a baseball team or the shiftleader at McDonalds. I would never yell at and/or belittle person in front of his/her co-workers. First, it does nothing to improve the performance of the employee. Second, theres a decent shot that the employee will tell me to "f*ck off" and/or punch me in the face.
Yeah. He's a crappy boss. Does that mean that Chacon shouldn't be punished for attacking him? Unfortunately, in legal terms Wade did nothing wrong. Chacon did. If someone taunts and belittles someone for years, and then that someone turns around and shoots him, we typically don't let the shooter walk free. This whole incident resulted from Chacon's immature reaction. I wouldn't expect a headline to read "GM belittles Chacon". It would be a non-issue.
"This guy leads the league in most offensive categories, including nose hair..."
This a lesson for the kids, don't interrupt a pitcher while he is enjoying his pregame meal. I mean all Chacon wanted to do was enjoy his food, and mean old Wade comes along and starts yelling at him. What did Wade expect to happen?
"I do not think baseball of today is any better than it was 30 years ago... I still think Radbourne is the greatest of the pitchers." John Sullivan 1914-Old athletes never change.
Precise wrote:I don't care if I am the GM of a baseball team or the shiftleader at McDonalds. I would never yell at and/or belittle person in front of his/her co-workers. First, it does nothing to improve the performance of the employee. Second, theres a decent shot that the employee will tell me to "f*ck off" and/or punch me in the face.
Yeah. He's a crappy boss. Does that mean that Chacon shouldn't be punished for attacking him? Unfortunately, in legal terms Wade did nothing wrong. Chacon did. If someone taunts and belittles someone for years, and then that someone turns around and shoots him, we typically don't let the shooter walk free. This whole incident resulted from Chacon's immature reaction. I wouldn't expect a headline to read "GM belittles Chacon". It would be a non-issue.
No one in this thread justified his behavior even implicitly. Not sure where you're getting that from. We just said that Ed Wade is a crappy boss that doesn't know how to handle things in a proper manner.
stevekahuda wrote:No one in this thread justified his behavior even implicitly. Not sure where you're getting that from. We just said that Ed Wade is a crappy boss that doesn't know how to handle things in a proper manner.
All I'm suggesting is that the real discussion should focus on Chacon, not on Wade.
"This guy leads the league in most offensive categories, including nose hair..."
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