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Anyone worried about Webb?

Postby thatguy27 » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:16 pm

His velocity has been down lately and he said he might be going through a bit of a dead arm phase. Furthermore, he took the shot from Delgado two starts ago. Do we expect a swift return to his usual dominant self or could he be in for more rough outings to come?
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Re: Anyone worried about Webb?

Postby Amazing Oopah » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:30 pm

I think you simply have to temper your expectations of him from now on. Instead of him being a must start, no questions about it, you may want to start taking matchups into consideration and such.
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Re: Anyone worried about Webb?

Postby Bobbleheadrusty » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:36 pm

Amazing Oopah wrote:I think you simply have to temper your expectations of him from now on. Instead of him being a must start, no questions about it, you may want to start taking matchups into consideration and such.



Really? Webb is at worse one of the top 5 pitchers and you are gonna play matchups with him?
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Re: Anyone worried about Webb?

Postby thatguy27 » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:41 pm

Bobbleheadrusty wrote:
Amazing Oopah wrote:I think you simply have to temper your expectations of him from now on. Instead of him being a must start, no questions about it, you may want to start taking matchups into consideration and such.



Really? Webb is at worse one of the top 5 pitchers and you are gonna play matchups with him?


I certainly don't intend to play matchups... unless he strings together three or four outings similar to last nights, he will always start for my team. Still, I am a bit worried that he may be in for a rough patch, at least until after the All-Star Break.
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Re: Anyone worried about Webb?

Postby Bobbleheadrusty » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:49 pm

thatguy27 wrote:
Bobbleheadrusty wrote:
Amazing Oopah wrote:I think you simply have to temper your expectations of him from now on. Instead of him being a must start, no questions about it, you may want to start taking matchups into consideration and such.



Really? Webb is at worse one of the top 5 pitchers and you are gonna play matchups with him?


I certainly don't intend to play matchups... unless he strings together three or four outings similar to last nights, he will always start for my team. Still, I am a bit worried that he may be in for a rough patch, at least until after the All-Star Break.


I agree with you, but with a guy like Webb (and an offense like AZ) you can't sit him in almost any format. The night you choose to is the night he pops out 12-15ks in a 4 hit shutout.

And yeah, a couple bad starts in a row might be time to panic, but its way to early to talk about stuff like that.
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Re: Anyone worried about Webb?

Postby thatguy27 » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:59 pm

I guess what worries me the most is that in two of his past 5 outings he has failed to last at least 5 innings. By comparison, since the start of the 2005 season, the only other time in which he failed to make it that deep was his final start of 2006.
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Re: Anyone worried about Webb?

Postby ROC AllStars » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:19 pm

To be fair, he was pulled out of the NYM start as a precaution because of the come-backer. I'm a bit worried about his last start, but since he's my staff ace I really have no choice but to start him regardless of matchup. He's dominant enough that he could turn it around in any game.
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Re: Anyone worried about Webb?

Postby thatguy27 » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:40 pm

ROC AllStars wrote:To be fair, he was pulled out of the NYM start as a precaution because of the come-backer. I'm a bit worried about his last start, but since he's my staff ace I really have no choice but to start him regardless of matchup. He's dominant enough that he could turn it around in any game.


The second game that I'm referring to was the Atlanta game on May 26 when he lasted only 4.1 innings.
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Re: Anyone worried about Webb?

Postby The Artful Dodger » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:28 am

Webb has said that his arm felt fine, but said that maybe he's heading into a "dead arm" stage. Whatever it is, I think his velocity is OK, but he's not getting the kind of movement the desired for a sinkerball pitcher. Webb hasn't gotten the kind of horizontal movement on that sinker that a sinkerballer like himself should have to be successful; whether that's the arm or not, it's still a bit unclear.

That said, perhaps being struck in the hip affected Webb (I'd think there's some kind of contusion), but I also think Bob Melvin does a fairly good job in taking care of his pitchers. Webb is usually a workhorse, but for what it's worth, he's had a few games where he's gone the distance and maybe skipping his next turn in the rotation could be a good thing. I'm not really that worried, but this is of course something to keep an eye on.
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Re: Anyone worried about Webb?

Postby Rman3911 » Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:37 am

Die hard D Backs fan here. Let me get this straight. The comebacker from Delgado has absolutely NOTHING to do with what's goin on with his pitching. He's obviously a top 3 fantasy pitcher, and you're still going to have to start him every week. WIth the dead arm issue: he's going to break out of that eventually, considering I can't remember if ever he's gone on the DL. If they even have to limit him to 90 pitches, he's still going to get you a win 70% of the time. He gets some of the best run support in the league, so go with your horse, unless otherwise noted.
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