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johnnytremain · by **johnnytremain** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:36 pm

I'm hoping Brad Penny can turn it around but Harang is probably more likely.

by **WyldStallyn** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:46 pm

johnnytremain wrote:I'm hoping Brad Penny can turn it around but Harang is probably more likely.

penny is always a 1st half pitcher. from 05-07, he had a 2.88 era pre allstar, 4.82 post. that alone makes me think his 2nd half wont be any better

by **AussieDodger** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:48 pm

Ian Snell.
When he gets into the right head-space some hitters are going to pay.
}:-)

by **RyeWhiskey** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:19 pm

I'd like to mention Johan Santana here as a previously dominant second half player.

In 2005, he worked this half split:
Pre-ASB: 7-5, 143 K, 3.98 ERA, 1.05 WHIP
Post: 9-2, 95 K, 1.59 ERA, 0.88 WHIP

And in 2006:
Pre-ASB: 9-5, 138 K, 2.95 ERA, 1.00 WHIP
Post: 10-1, 107 K, 2.54 ERA, 0.99 WHIP

Now, things seemed to change in a "down year" of 2007:
Pre-ASB: 10-6, 125 K, 2.75 ERA, 1.03 WHIP
Post: 5-7, 110 K, 4.04 ERA, 1.12 WHIP
Most of that damage was done in Sep. (1-3, 35, 4.94, 1.23), but none the less, that's really odd.

And this year, things seem somewhat the same as '07:
7-4, 76 K, 3.08 ERA, 1.21 WHIP

Cause for concern? I know he's Johan Santana, but seriously, while these numbers are good they are not the first round quality that was rightfully expected from this beast. What's going on?

- Monkey

by **KrunK** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:59 pm

^
And that is why I would never draft Johan in the first round. He's still going to put up rock solid numbers, but I don't think he's going to be as dominant as he used to be.

Anyhow, I'm thinking Aaron Harang will turn it around along with Erik Bedard.