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Postby jfg » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:19 am

The other thread was hijacked into a "let's start a keeper league" thread so everybody who put some effort into making a list got buried. I think keeper rankings are important year round for making trades though so lets try this again. Here's my positional keeper list...it's not for a dynasty so there's a cut-off. These are only must keep players with maybe a few borderline must keeps. Ages in parentheses.


Catcher:

1. McCann (24)
2. Martin (25)
3. Mauer (25)
4. Soto (25)

1B:

1. Pujols (28)
2. Gonzalez (26)
3. Fielder (24)
4. Howard (28)
5. Teixeira (28)
6. Berkman (32)
7. Morneau (27)
8. Lee (32)

2B:

1. Utley (29)
2. Kinsler (25)
3. Phillips (26)
4. Cano (25)
5. Figgins (30)

SS:

1. Ramirez (24)
2. Reyes (24)
3. Rollins (29)

3B:

1. Wright (25)
2. Rodriguez (32)
3. Cabrera (25)
4. Ramirez (29)
5. Longoria (22)
6. Atkins (28)
7. Zimmerman (23)
8. Jones (36)

OF:

1. Braun (24)
2. Sizemore (25)
3. B.Upton (23)
4. Holliday (28)
5. Hamilton (27)
6. Crawford (26)
7. Markakis (24)
8. Soriano (32)
9. Beltran (31)
10. Kemp (23)
11. J. Upton (20)
12. Lee (31)
13. Hart (26)
14. Rios (27)
15. Quentin (25)
16. C. Young (24)
17. Dunn (28)
18. Bruce (21)
19. Pence (25)
20. M. Ramirez (36)
21. Guerrero (32)
22. Ichiro (34)
23. Bay (29)
24. Ordonez (34)
25. Ellsbury (24)

DH:

1. Ortiz (32)

SP:

1. Santana (29)
2. Webb (29)
3. Kazmir (24)
4. Peavy (27)
5. Hamels (24)
6. Lincecum (23)
7. Sabathia (27)
8. Zambrano (27)
9. Volquez (24)
10. Halladay (31)
11. Beckett (28)
12. Matsuzaka (27)
13. Hernandez (22)
14. Kershaw (20)
15. Haren (27)
16. Lackey (29)
17. Wainwright (26)
18. Shields (26)
19. Vazquez (31)
20. Liriano (24)
21. Gallardo (22)
22. Chamberlain (22)

RP:

1. Papelbon (27)
2. Nathan (33)
3. Rodriguez (27)
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Re: Keeper Rankings

Postby Grounded Polo » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:37 am

Adrian Gonzalez over Howard and Tex is pretty gutsy (guess you can justify Fielder by his frame) but I could just be bitter since I kept Corey Hart over Gonzalez because I already had Tex and Berkman at first base. :~(
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Re: Keeper Rankings

Postby jfg » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:50 am

He's proved this year that he belongs there but I didn't have him ranked very high at the beginning of the year either. I think they are pretty interchangeable though. Tex keeps proving his mediocrity in the first months although the prospect of him being a Yankee or Met next season is very intriguing. Howard and Fielder both have the potential every year to hit 60 but I think Gonzo is going to be more consistent over the years. If he can get out of Petco (not that I wish that, I hope he stays a Padre) the sky's the limit.
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Re: Keeper Rankings

Postby Grounded Polo » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:52 am

Before this season, my opinion of Gonzalez was that if he ever got traded out of San Diego, he's an automatic top 25 player as a floor. What he's doing now at Petco is really impressive.
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Re: Keeper Rankings

Postby jswede » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:19 pm

I like Uggla at #2 2B, and Cueto in the top 20 SPs.
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Re: Keeper Rankings

Postby Smileyman9 » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:42 pm

I'd add Chris B Young somewhere to the OF list; His BA is rough...but hopefully that'll improve to something in the 250-260 range eventually
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Re: Keeper Rankings

Postby jfg » Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:04 pm

I just spaced on Young. I put him on the list. I don't think Cueto is a must keep when you consider the rest of the pitchers on the list.
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Re: Keeper Rankings

Postby Bobbleheadrusty » Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:11 pm

If you have Bay then I would probably include Mclouth and Frenchy.
Also for relievers, Jenks, Street and Capps probably need to be on that list, as good young closers.


I would also add Alex Gordon, S. Drew, Billingsley and Greinke, who are all under 25 still and damn good. I can't see not holding any of them in a keeper.

I think I would add some of the top prospects in. Obviously it would depend on how many you can keep, but we've seen the virtual instant impact of guys like Bruce, so going in to next year I would want to make sure I held on to these guys.

Weiters
Snider
Price
Buchholtz
LaPorta
Maybin
Rasmus
Porcello
Alvarez

And, depending on how the rest of this season goes, Casilla and Ramirez may go on to the 2B list.
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Re: Keeper Rankings

Postby jfg » Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:36 pm

Bobbleheadrusty wrote:If you have Bay then I would probably include McClouth and Frenchy.
Also for relievers, Jenks, Street and Capps probably need to be on that list, as good young closers.


I would also add Alex Gordon, S. Drew, Billingsley and Greinke, who are all under 25 still and damn good. I can't see not holding any of them in a keeper.

I think I would add some of the top prospects in. Obviously it would depend on how many you can keep, but we've seen the virtual instant impact of guys like Bruce, so going in to next year I would want to make sure I held on to these guys.

Weiters
Snider
Price
Buchholtz
LaPorta
Maybin
Rasmus
Porcello
Alvarez

And, depending on how the rest of this season goes, Casilla and Ramirez may go on to the 2B list.


Again, this list is no-brainer must keep players. None of those guys you listed are no-brainer. Bay has a long track record while McLouth has about a year of stats to look at. I'd take Bay for McLouth any day. I thought about Billingsly and Grienke but decided that weren't must keep but I wouldn't argue if somebody put them on a list like mine. Gordon and Drew...no. I'd draft them but I wouldn't keep them over anybody on the list already.
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Re: Keeper Rankings

Postby Bobbleheadrusty » Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:40 pm

jfg wrote:Again, this list is no-brainer must keep players. None of those guys you listed are no-brainer. Bay has a long track record while McLouth has about a year of stats to look at. I'd take Bay for McLouth any day. I thought about Billingsly and Grienke but decided that weren't must keep but I wouldn't argue if somebody put them on a list like mine. Gordon and Drew...no. I'd draft them but I wouldn't keep them over anybody on the list already.


I didn't say OVER anyone on the list, but I would add them to the list. Your list has under 80 players, I'm simply pointing out that in a lot of leagues there would be more total keepers then that.
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