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Which 5 x 5 categories are easiest to plug after the draft?

Postby wkelly91 » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:28 pm

This is my first 5 x 5 league and my gut says that it is better to go after:

HR
RBI
R

SO
ERA
WHIP

Let these categories take a back burner:

SB
AVE

W
S

Is it easier to pick up cheap steals with guys like Roberts available? And to a lesser extent AVE with guys available who hit for ave. with little power?

Junk wins from starters with lousy WHIP's and ERA's. Saves from teams that may be changing throughout the year?

Help :-?
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Postby NZF » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:17 pm

General rule of thumb is you have to consider every category on draft day. Some obviously more than others.

However if you keep very active you can pick up FA closers early on who will get you saves and you can always get bargain basement guys that steal but beware because they can hurt you elsewhere.

Again if you are astute and look at matchups and venues, you can pick up any amount of spot starters that can get you WINS.

Average is another story though. You will not pick up a guy that hits for average that isn't already gone, that will benefit your overall team over a season. Drafting with average in mind is always very important to me because generally a good average will take care of at least one or two other cats.
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Postby EugeneStyles » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:33 pm

You can always pick up someone for RBI's or for AVG, but (and I think this is the same thing that New Zealand Fan is saying) most guys that hit for AVG that are available will be bad for your other categories. That said, there are always some suprises that you can get that hit for AVG and don't hurt you in other areas. Last year, guys like Mark Loretta, Frank Catalanotto, Shannon Stewart were pretty much available anytime you needed them to plug a hole left by injury without hurting your average.

As far as SB's go, depending on what kind of league you're in, there are no cheap SB's. Even Dave Roberts will go in the draft. Trying to cover SB's with waiver pickups is iffy at best. Somebody may have a breakout year, and if you pull the trigger fastest, you can grab them, but if you punt SB's during the draft, you're pretty much locked into trading for SB's, or punting them for the whole season.

For pitchers, again, it depends on the kind of league you're in. If it's a yahoo league, I'm not sure what it is, but there's something about the settings in a standard public league that makes it adantageous to have 3 or 4 good closers. Mostly because of the inning limit, and the fact that the best closers are 4 category players, just like the best starters.

K's usually take care of themselves if you draft guys for W or SV. There are some prototypical KO pitchers like Wood or Vazquez, who you can target to take care of the category, but usually you don't have to worry about it.
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Postby sinicalypse » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:48 pm

i dont know specific categories, but remember these tips, kids:

- people tend to jump at trades for a hot SP more than anything else. for example, i could have traded dontrelle willis for a new cadillac last year when he was 8-1 with a high 1s or low 2s era. i rode him til he broke down later on, but by then i got what i needed out of him. i could have got a closer, infielder, outfielder, or just about anything other than a stud catcher. rememebr, dontrelle willis came out of nowhere, and without fail every year a pitcher comes in and kicks some arse (remember oswalt in 01? prior in 02? yeah)

- it's easier to find tradeable pitchers in the vain of dontrelle than it is to find hot consistent hitters like pujols, in my eyes. steals usually are easier to get than 30/100 guys from "new" viable hitters

- if you dont have a good draft, veracity on the waiverwire and in the trade market can make up for it. like the regular game, fantasy is a longhaul and knowing that time is generally on your side for 75% of the year pays off. dont act irrationally for the sake of supplant one category in april, realize that its a game (stock up on saves early or later, for example, knowing that you can ride with less closers at some point of the season)

like a blind man in an orgy, you gotta feel your way through the season. so chill, watch some baseball tonight, read every boxscore every day, and buy my instructional video. you'll be fine
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Postby Spartans Rule » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:53 pm

I would not neglect batting average. You're not going to help yourself picking up singles hitters with no power later on.

Steals can be picked up cheap, but I would still want to draft an Alex Sanchez or Dave Roberts towards the end to be safe. Just don't overpay for Ichiro or Pierre.

Wins are a very easy category to manipulate thru spot starting. If your league uses an IP limit you can also stockpile setup men, who get more wins on a per innings basis than even top starters. Don't EVER go after bad pitchers on good teams just for the wins. You'll kill yourself in the other categories.

Saves are a tricky category. I wouldn't go in to the draft planning to ignore them. I wouldn't participate in closer runs out of panic either, but you should be able to get some good value on closers if you keep your eye open.
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Postby bleach168 » Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:40 pm

Saves is the easiest category to plug off the waiver wire.

Here is the list of closers from last year who were very likely available:

Worrell -38 saves
Biddle -34 saves
Borowski -33
Carter -26
Kolb -21
Beck -20
Kim -16
Hasegawa -16
Cordero - 15
8 more with 10 or more saves

If you didn't draft any closers but managed to pick up half the people on this list, you would have been in great shape last year.
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Postby drunkenmonkey » Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:20 pm

I think Avg. is the most important offensive category, especially in roto leagues. If you start the year low in average in a roto league, it's almost impossible to catch up. If you stick with good Avg./HR guys, the runs and RBIs should follow. If you are in a head-to-head league, steals are probably the least important because most speed guys will hurt you in every other category(with the exception of Beltran, Suzuki, Pierre). You can usually boot that category and still win the majority of your categories. Saves are important, but like everyone else has said, if you watch the wire, you can usually pick some decent closers up during the season.

So go with Avg/HR guys on offense, and ERA/K guys on pitching. Of course, that's just my humble opinion.
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Postby Guest » Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:59 pm

I believe average is the most important category as well. I think HR's are the easiest to pick up....but you're doing it at the expense of average most times.

HR guys in my league (16-teams) are guys like Branyan/Helms...who K a lot and hit around .250
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Postby justinA » Sat Feb 28, 2004 8:23 pm

wins are usually the easiest to plug because a vatiety of potchers pick up wins during a season. Not just a starter. Sb's tho, u should try and target at the draft. A Podsednik doesnt come around too often.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:11 pm

Very good responses by everyone here, and I just want to agree with everyone stressing the importance of drafting high BA. It is one of the hardest cats to improve in. Aim for .300 from pretty much every position.
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