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Re: What's going on with Harang?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Fri May 30, 2008 5:17 pm

Run support issues:

2 starts with 2 ER, yet he takes the loss
2 starts with 1 ER and one with 2 ER, yet gets a no-decision
8 QS out of 12 total

Plus there's the Dusty Baker factor. Who in their right mind plays their ace 3 times in a week?
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Re: What's going on with Harang?

Postby wildbill » Fri May 30, 2008 5:45 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:Who in their right mind plays their ace 3 times in a week?

If an ace isn't willing to do that (or whatever) when the team needs it then he's not an ace in my book. Really Harang's ERA from the last 2 season's and this one don't exactly put him in the category i'd consider a true ace.
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Re: What's going on with Harang?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Fri May 30, 2008 5:56 pm

But that's the thing, did his team need it? Are the Reds in a close pennant race with 10-15 games left in the season? No, they're not, it's freakin' May! And his ERA may not have been especially shining the last few years, but a 1.14 WHIP last year (and low career walk rates), 218 K's, and a 16-win season makes up for it. He's a solid, if not spectacular contributor in 4 of 5 pitching categories. Even if he's not a true fantasy ace (which I concede he is not) he's the Reds' ace, and that's why Dusty should take care of him.
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Re: What's going on with Harang?

Postby krunchyfrogg » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:01 pm

BUMP. He's not what I expected of him.
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Re: What's going on with Harang?

Postby gatorgreenwell » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:05 pm

gatorgreenwell wrote:3500 pitch club.


3500 pitch club.
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Re: What's going on with Harang?

Postby thejusman1 » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:42 pm

He is one more blow-up away from getting shipped out of my team... he gave up a hit to the pitcher, for chrissakes. He is honestly pathetic right now, with little to no control. There's simply no point of having a shitty SP from a shitty team.
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Re: What's going on with Harang?

Postby Yanks_Baby » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:44 pm

thejusman1 wrote:He is one more blow-up away from getting shipped out of my team... he gave up a hit to the pitcher, for chrissakes. He is honestly pathetic right now, with little to no control. There's simply no point of having a shitty SP from a shitty team.

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Re: What's going on with Harang?

Postby misterigloo » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:53 pm

Actually just traded FOR harang in a deep 16 team league. Traded CJ Wilson and Justin Upton...
I feel like Harang is going to turn it on in the 2nd half, and if so, he'll be a major contributor in Ks and not destroy ERA and WHIP
Let's go Oliver Perez and his METS!
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Re: What's going on with Harang?

Postby thejusman1 » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:56 pm

Yanks_Baby wrote:
thejusman1 wrote:He is one more blow-up away from getting shipped out of my team... he gave up a hit to the pitcher, for chrissakes. He is honestly pathetic right now, with little to no control. There's simply no point of having a shitty SP from a shitty team.

I wish I was in your league.


Well, I wouldn't be stupid enough to just drop him onto the WW... I'd most likely try and trade him with another player for strength elsewhere. But yeah, dropping aces is not in my normal operating procedure.
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Re: What's going on with Harang?

Postby jdsun1 » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:44 pm

gatorgreenwell wrote:
gatorgreenwell wrote:3500 pitch club.


3500 pitch club.


Yup. The workload is finally catching up to him.
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