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FL Teacher Has Boy Voted Out of Kindergarten

Postby StlSluggers » Thu May 29, 2008 12:51 pm

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Normally, I'd say, "Let's see what the other side of the story is," but I can't imagine there is any way to sugar coat this.

Oh and... "Al Qaeda..." :-D
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Re: FL Teacher Has Boy Voted Out of Kindergarten

Postby Mookie4ever » Thu May 29, 2008 1:10 pm

That would have made a perfect Florida or Germany poll.

On the plus side, the kids learned about democracy.
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Re: FL Teacher Has Boy Voted Out of Kindergarten

Postby KCollins1304 » Thu May 29, 2008 1:48 pm

It bothers me a little that the teacher hasn't been fired yet. :-?
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Re: FL Teacher Has Boy Voted Out of Kindergarten

Postby The Artful Dodger » Thu May 29, 2008 2:27 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:That would have made a perfect Florida or Germany poll.

On the plus side, the kids learned about democracy.


Really? They could've all just gotten the idea from watching Survivor on the Fox Reality TV archive channel.
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Re: FL Teacher Has Boy Voted Out of Kindergarten

Postby Madison » Thu May 29, 2008 2:46 pm

I'm confused... the mother says the kid is disabled, so why is he in public school? Why isn't he in a school designed to help disabled kids? She mentions her son deserves an education, yet she's selfish enough to disrupt the education of 16 other students by sending her disabled child to public school? What makes her kid worth an education but not the other 16 kids in the class? And that's not even taking into consideration that her son would get a better education in a school designed to help his needs....
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Re: FL Teacher Has Boy Voted Out of Kindergarten

Postby StlSluggers » Thu May 29, 2008 2:52 pm

Madison wrote:I'm confused... the mother says the kid is disabled, so why is he in public school? Why isn't he in a school designed to help disabled kids? She mentions her son deserves an education, yet she's selfish enough to disrupt the education of 16 other students by sending her disabled child to public school? What makes her kid worth an education but not the other 16 kids in the class? And that's not even taking into consideration that her son would get a better education in a school designed to help his needs....

They said he was in the process of being diagnosed, so I'm guessing he couldn't go to that sort of school yet.

Regardless, what that teacher did was ridiculously callous.
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Re: FL Teacher Has Boy Voted Out of Kindergarten

Postby Madison » Thu May 29, 2008 3:04 pm

StlSluggers wrote:
Madison wrote:I'm confused... the mother says the kid is disabled, so why is he in public school? Why isn't he in a school designed to help disabled kids? She mentions her son deserves an education, yet she's selfish enough to disrupt the education of 16 other students by sending her disabled child to public school? What makes her kid worth an education but not the other 16 kids in the class? And that's not even taking into consideration that her son would get a better education in a school designed to help his needs....

They said he was in the process of being diagnosed, so I'm guessing he couldn't go to that sort of school yet.

Regardless, what that teacher did was ridiculously callous.


He doesn't have to be fully diagnosed yet. Unless she wants the taxpayers to fund her son's education. There are tons and tons of private schools and special needs private schools, so if she believes her son is disabled, he should be in one of the many other options and not in public school disrupting the education of the other students.

I could write a book about what the teacher did, but probably best if I don't.
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Re: FL Teacher Has Boy Voted Out of Kindergarten

Postby bigh0rt » Thu May 29, 2008 11:49 pm

Madison wrote:
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Madison wrote:I'm confused... the mother says the kid is disabled, so why is he in public school? Why isn't he in a school designed to help disabled kids? She mentions her son deserves an education, yet she's selfish enough to disrupt the education of 16 other students by sending her disabled child to public school? What makes her kid worth an education but not the other 16 kids in the class? And that's not even taking into consideration that her son would get a better education in a school designed to help his needs....

They said he was in the process of being diagnosed, so I'm guessing he couldn't go to that sort of school yet.

Regardless, what that teacher did was ridiculously callous.


He doesn't have to be fully diagnosed yet. Unless she wants the taxpayers to fund her son's education. There are tons and tons of private schools and special needs private schools, so if she believes her son is disabled, he should be in one of the many other options and not in public school disrupting the education of the other students.

I could write a book about what the teacher did, but probably best if I don't.

Mainstreaming is all the rage. And I can't say I'm against it. You toss this kid in a 'special school' now and he literally stands no chance at succeeding. Say what you will about schools designed to suit his needs, etc. etc. Bottom line is, you toss a 5 year old into a special school, he goes through his entire academic career in special schools, and he winds up contributing nothing as an adult because he is inadequately prepared. That is the harsh reality. I don't know what the mother claimed his special needs were, but trying to nip things in the bud, modify his behaviors, and keep him in a normal classroom setting increases the likelihood of success and him turning the corner.

Again, I don't know the full story, and I'll watch it tomorrow cause it's late now and I'm exhausted. But, I am certainly not for tossing 5 year olds into special schools, disabled or otherwise, unless it is something developmental to the point where they may be immobile (where there are specialists available to help get them mobile, if possible) or non-verbal (as public school staff are generally not certified sign language, and again, there are schools set up to meet these extreme needs). Keep in mind here that the ultimate goal, even with disabilities of this nature, is to get the child back into the mainstream. There are tons and tons of programs within the public school system designed to modify the school day to varying degrees for students who need it. He deserves the same education that is provided for students who aren't considered (either documented or parents' wacky accusations) disabled or special needs.
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Re: FL Teacher Has Boy Voted Out of Kindergarten

Postby AussieDodger » Fri May 30, 2008 12:28 am

Hideous. :-t
How could you do that to the poor little bugger?
It's good that that show showed to teachers picture and name. ;-D

How did the mother know that Al Qaede approved? Did she ask them? :-S
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Re: FL Teacher Has Boy Voted Out of Kindergarten

Postby sportsaddict » Fri May 30, 2008 3:02 am

Madison wrote:I'm confused... the mother says the kid is disabled, so why is he in public school? Why isn't he in a school designed to help disabled kids? She mentions her son deserves an education, yet she's selfish enough to disrupt the education of 16 other students by sending her disabled child to public school? What makes her kid worth an education but not the other 16 kids in the class? And that's not even taking into consideration that her son would get a better education in a school designed to help his needs....


Special needs kids can do fine in public schools, but I'm wondering why the kid, Alex, wasn't in a separate class. The mother has every right to place her child in a public school, even if he has disabilities, but the boy should not have been in a regular classroom setting.

Just from watching the video, it is obvious Alex does have some problems. He could not control himself at all during that interview, so I can see why the teacher would run into trouble with him. That said, what the teacher did is despicable and she deserves to get fired over her actions. This is not a case of "kids these days can't handle discipline." This 5 year old boy already had severe self-esteem issues and social problems from his disability, and he had just one friend. At such a young age, when his peers don't understand what is wrong with him, I am sure Alex is constantly being made fun of and ridiculed. Now, he has to sit through 16 different classmates individually tell him why they don't like him, and then he's voted out of the class. Just a terrible thing to do to any kid, much less one with special needs. :-t
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