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Mark Redman, Kip Wells & Livan H....in which order?

Postby McGill » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:30 am

What dou guys think?... :-)



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Postby Bukoski77 » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:35 am

Redman is the obvious #1. After that I would go with K.Wells ( bareley more sleeper potential) followed bye L.Hernandez. Hernandez is steady but last year was a career year.
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Postby dannahann » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:37 am

I'd go with Wells first and then Livan a minimum of 2-3 rounds later with Redman another couple rounds after Livan.
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Postby RynMan » Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:17 am

wells
hernandez
redman

i think redman will be better this year however moving to oakland. there is ALOT of foul ground in that stadium! :-) which suits redman as he has a nasty changeup and is a true pop-up pitcher.
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Postby MikeeDee » Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:37 pm

1.Wells (the guy is good, just plays on a lousy teams, so you'll get all the #s just not a lot of wins)
2. Redman (decent pitcher)
3. Hernandez (the joker, could be better, but his injury history and up and down history scare me)
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Postby Absolutely Adequate » Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:40 pm

MikeeDee wrote:1.Wells (the guy is good, just plays on a lousy teams, so you'll get all the #s just not a lot of wins)
2. Redman (decent pitcher)
3. Hernandez (the joker, could be better, but his injury history and up and down history scare me)


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Postby drunkenmonkey » Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:14 pm

I'm higher on Hernandez than most people. If you look at his last three years, you get:

2001: 13-15 226IP 5.24ERA 85/138BB/K 266H 1.39WHIP
2002: 12-16 216IP 4.37ERA 71/134BB/K 233H 1.26WHIP
2003: 15-10 233IP 3.20ERA 57/178BB/K 225H 1.08WHIP

Yes, last year was a career year, but as the stats tell, he has gotten consistently better three years running. And he's only 29(reportedly). And as for injury history, I'll take 200+ innings a year for three years any time. I'd almost be tempted to take him first of the three, but I will conservatively rank them --

Wells
Hernandez
Redman
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Postby Bukoski77 » Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:36 pm

drunkenmonkey wrote:I'm higher on Hernandez than most people. If you look at his last three years, you get:

2001: 13-15 226IP 5.24ERA 85/138BB/K 266H 1.39WHIP
2002: 12-16 216IP 4.37ERA 71/134BB/K 233H 1.26WHIP
2003: 15-10 233IP 3.20ERA 57/178BB/K 225H 1.08WHIP

Yes, last year was a career year, but as the stats tell, he has gotten consistently better three years running. And he's only 29(reportedly). And as for injury history, I'll take 200+ innings a year for three years any time. I'd almost be tempted to take him first of the three, but I will conservatively rank them --

Wells
Hernandez
Redman


Hmmm, I'm tempted to rank him a little higher on the list now, That was a pretty good break down. However I think the added pressure of being the #1 in the rotation will stop any further improvement. I guess he might come close to matching last years ERA/WHIP/K's but wins are no gaurantee, as his run support will be less than last year as well.

Finally 2000 he had a pretty decent season as well 240INN 17W-11L 165K 73BBI 3.75 ERA 1.36 WHIP. He took a huge step back in 2001 and that was blamed on overuse. Last year was the first time since 2000 that he has gone over 230INN.
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