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Why isn't OBP the standard by now?

Postby jfg » Mon May 26, 2008 9:29 pm

I don't get why standard leagues aren't 5X5 OBP. It just doesn't make sense. How many times has one of your hitters gone 0/0 or 0/1 with 3-4 walks? Haven't you been frustrated by that enough times to lobby your league to switch to OBP? I can't see one reason why AVG shouldn't be replaced by OBP as the standard.
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Re: Why isn't OBP the standard by now?

Postby KCollins1304 » Mon May 26, 2008 9:34 pm

I'd like to see OBP and S-CS become more standard in leagues.
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Re: Why isn't OBP the standard by now?

Postby jcook3127 » Mon May 26, 2008 9:37 pm

Agreed.

Normally I play in leagues with a few more categories (7 x 7 or 8 x 8) because I think that gives a better overall grasp of a players performance...but if I was playing in 5 x 5 I would certainly rather have OBP over AVG..not even close..If Adam Dunn's .230 was all that mattered in real life, he would be awful..but the Reds and MLB teams can see value in him because of all those walks....fantasy owners shouldn't be left out of that either
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Re: Why isn't OBP the standard by now?

Postby Howie » Mon May 26, 2008 9:41 pm

I agree. Pitchers get dinged for walking batters (when calculating WHIP), so why can't batters get credit for being walked?

I think that avg has generally been considered the benchmark of a successful hitter in real baseball and that's why it carried over to be a 5x5 stat in fantasy baseball.
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Re: Why isn't OBP the standard by now?

Postby MotorCityKitties » Mon May 26, 2008 11:03 pm

If you are going to change the standard 5x5, why not use OPS instead of average or OBP? Three doubles should be worth more than three singles.
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Re: Why isn't OBP the standard by now?

Postby Yanks_Baby » Mon May 26, 2008 11:05 pm

We use AVG TB and BB so it's like AVG OBP amd OPS.
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Re: Why isn't OBP the standard by now?

Postby jfg » Tue May 27, 2008 12:05 am

That's what my league uses as well although you need to find a way to compensate the pitching categories.
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Re: Why isn't OBP the standard by now?

Postby Matthias » Tue May 27, 2008 12:10 am

Yanks_Baby wrote:We use AVG TB and BB so it's like AVG OBP amd OPS.

No, it isn't.

Counting walks as a stand-alone stat is a terrible idea. Walks are only meaningful when they're put into context. What you should do is count AVG and OBP.
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Re: Why isn't OBP the standard by now?

Postby Ender » Tue May 27, 2008 1:11 am

Fantasy baseball already favors power hitters and OBP also favores power hitters. You dont' want a game where one type of hitter is the obvious best choice every time. Same reason OPS isn't that great a stat. You want the gamet o reward the most types of playres, not just be dumbed down into a single stat like football is (points).
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Re: Why isn't OBP the standard by now?

Postby pangbones » Tue May 27, 2008 1:20 am

We've used OBP instead of avg the past 3 years, and I love it. Hitting is a skill, but getting on base is a skill as well. I can see the arguement though, about making power hitters more valuable, so thats why we also use K's. That helps negate it IMO.
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