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Re: Revised TOP 25?

Postby Yanks_Baby » Thu May 22, 2008 3:05 pm

Dan Lambskin wrote:how has Hanley Ramirez not been mentioned yet?

He was number one on the list posted in the above post.
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Re: Revised TOP 25?

Postby Yoda » Thu May 22, 2008 3:07 pm

Dan Lambskin wrote:how has Hanley Ramirez not been mentioned yet?


lol you almost made me spit out my food. :-D
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Re: Revised TOP 25?

Postby J35J » Thu May 22, 2008 3:08 pm

moose32 wrote:off the top of my head
1. Hanley
2.Pujols
3.A-Rod
4. Utley
5.Wright
6. Cabrera
7. Holliday
8.Reyes
9. Braun
10. Rollins
11. Crawford
12. Webb
13. Peavy
14. Phillips
15. Sizemore
16. Upton
17. Ellsbury
18. Santana
19. Hamilton
20. Howard
21. Fielder
22. Berkman
23. C.Lee
24. T.Lincecum
25. C.Hamels


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Matthias wrote:I don't know if he's top 25, but a name that would be much closer than you think it would be: Kevin Youkilis. I would honestly draft him over Ryan Howard if the draft was held today.


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Yanks_Baby wrote:
Dan Lambskin wrote:how has Hanley Ramirez not been mentioned yet?

He was number one on the list posted in the above post.


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Re: Revised TOP 25?

Postby Inukchuk » Thu May 22, 2008 3:14 pm

Dan Lambskin wrote:how has Hanley Ramirez not been mentioned yet?


His sinker hasn't been looking too hot these days. I'm more surprised Webb's not on the list.
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Re: Revised TOP 25?

Postby Matthias » Thu May 22, 2008 3:16 pm

Yanks_Baby wrote:
Matthias wrote:I don't know if he's top 25, but a name that would be much closer than you think it would be: Kevin Youkilis. I would honestly draft him over Ryan Howard if the draft was held today.

Wow...

That is seriouslky all I can say.


He just broke the Epic-PHAIL-O-Meter

Laugh if you want.

Here's the stats:
.320 / .386 / 31 / 9 / 34 / 2
.195 / .300 / 29 / 12 / 29 / 0

Additionally, Howard has struck out in 40% of his at bats so far this season. So, excluding his HRs, he has to have a BABIP of .500 just to hit .300 on the season from here on out... and he's not that fast.

We'll check out this thread at the end of the season; see who has broke the PHAIL-O-Meter.
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Re: Revised TOP 25?

Postby Yanks_Baby » Thu May 22, 2008 3:19 pm

Matthias wrote:
Yanks_Baby wrote:
Matthias wrote:I don't know if he's top 25, but a name that would be much closer than you think it would be: Kevin Youkilis. I would honestly draft him over Ryan Howard if the draft was held today.

Wow...

That is seriouslky all I can say.


He just broke the Epic-PHAIL-O-Meter

Laugh if you want.

Here's the stats:
.320 / .386 / 31 / 9 / 34 / 2
.195 / .300 / 29 / 12 / 29 / 0

Additionally, Howard has struck out in 40% of his at bats so far this season. So, excluding his HRs, he has to have a BABIP of .500 just to hit .300 on the season from here on out... and he's not that fast.

We'll check out this thread at the end of the season; see who has broke the PHAIL-O-Meter.

How about a bet?

If Youkilis ends up being better than Howard, I'll sport a Avvie/Sig of your choosing, if Howard ends up better, you'll sport and Avvie sig of my choosing.

Deal?
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Re: Revised TOP 25?

Postby great gretzky » Thu May 22, 2008 3:22 pm

as I am at work, don't have time to go through this with a fine tooth comb, but
I have a really hard time not taking hanley and wright at the top two spots.

As for the Howard guy? I see the stats. You can't cherry pick for the first not even third of a season, and ignore the fact that he has 22 hrs in half a season, breaks 50, has a down year where he only gets 46, and is at 12 already, so he is trending for 40 again. Now, its clear he isn't a .300 hitter now, so holding him to that standard isn't fair. He breaks .260 again or gets above, then its kind of irrelevant. Youkilis is fairly ridiculous.
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Re: Revised TOP 25?

Postby Matthias » Thu May 22, 2008 3:23 pm

Yanks_Baby wrote:How about a bet?

If Youkilis ends up being better than Howard, I'll sport a Avvie/Sig of your choosing, if Howard ends up better, you'll sport and Avvie sig of my choosing.

Deal?

I'll do a sig bet with you for the first month of 2009 season. I don't do avatars.

Also note I'm not saying that Youkilis is a top-25 player (although as I said, he's closer than people think)... I just think that Howard isn't this year, either, and Youkilis will have a better year.

So are we counting stats to date? Or from here forward? Also, where do we get weightings? Because 130 points in average is a much bigger deal than say 5 HRs.
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Re: Revised TOP 25?

Postby Matthias » Thu May 22, 2008 3:30 pm

great gretzky wrote:As for the Howard guy? I see the stats. You can't cherry pick for the first not even third of a season, and ignore the fact that he has 22 hrs in half a season, breaks 50, has a down year where he only gets 46, and is at 12 already, so he is trending for 40 again. Now, its clear he isn't a .300 hitter now, so holding him to that standard isn't fair. He breaks .260 again or gets above, then its kind of irrelevant. Youkilis is fairly ridiculous.

Who's cherry picking? Everyone knows Howard's history. I posted all the stats to date that most people care about.

Even if Howard does hit 45 HRs, if Youkilis hits 32 with similar Runs and RBIs, a handful of more steals, and 70 points better in AVG, Youkilis is the more valuable player.
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Re: Revised TOP 25?

Postby Yanks_Baby » Thu May 22, 2008 3:30 pm

Matthias wrote:
Yanks_Baby wrote:How about a bet?

If Youkilis ends up being better than Howard, I'll sport a Avvie/Sig of your choosing, if Howard ends up better, you'll sport and Avvie sig of my choosing.

Deal?

I'll do a sig bet with you for the first month of 2009 season. I don't do avatars.

Also note I'm not saying that Youkilis is a top-25 player (although as I said, he's closer than people think)... I just think that Howard isn't this year, either, and Youkilis will have a better year.

So are we counting stats to date? Or from here forward? Also, where do we get weightings? Because 130 points in average is a much bigger deal than say 5 HRs.

Season wide, we'll review the stat line as a whole for a standard 5x5 H2H league.
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