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The Jurrjens trade

Postby pat189 » Thu May 22, 2008 12:32 am

How silly does Detroit look right now? They badly need pitching and their young arm they traded away is having a great year. It's early, but a lot of people around here were pretty high on Jurrjens.

Are Tiger fans pissed right now?
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Re: The Jurrjens trade

Postby mak1277 » Thu May 22, 2008 8:18 am

pat189 wrote:How silly does Detroit look right now? They badly need pitching and their young arm they traded away is having a great year. It's early, but a lot of people around here were pretty high on Jurrjens.

Are Tiger fans pissed right now?


Not as silly as if the Pirates had taken them up on their Jurrjens for Jack Wilson offer.
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Postby Dan Lambskin » Thu May 22, 2008 8:55 am

ha ha yeah...what idiots, they obviously should have predicted that Verlander would struglle and that Willis would get hurt.
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Postby Yoda » Thu May 22, 2008 9:02 am

Not as silly as the DBacks giving up Eveland, Smith and Chris Carter for Haren. Or Quentin for Chris Carter. Hindsight 20-20 FTW!!!
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Postby Bloody Sox » Thu May 22, 2008 9:19 am

Well, you didn't need hindsight to know that the Tigers needed pitching, not hitting going into this year. Trading Miller and Jurrjens seemed silly at the time when they were only adding offense (and a pretty useless D-Train).
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Postby Yoda » Thu May 22, 2008 9:28 am

Bloody Sox wrote:Well, you didn't need hindsight to know that the Tigers needed pitching, not hitting going into this year. Trading Miller and Jurrjens seemed silly at the time when they were only adding offense (and a pretty useless D-Train).


What has Miller done so far? He was universally rated higher than Jurrjens prior to the season. They were both prospects and no one knew how they would perform. Jurrjens could still fall apart. It's a long season.
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Postby MTUCache » Thu May 22, 2008 9:36 am

pat189 wrote:How silly does Detroit look right now? They badly need pitching and their young arm they traded away is having a great year. It's early, but a lot of people around here were pretty high on Jurrjens.

Are Tiger fans pissed right now?


A little baffled by how bad the pitching has been, but not the least bit pissed...

Even if Jair (or Miller) was on our roster, he'd simply be taking the place of Galaraga. They certainly weren't going to demote any of the four above him (Verlander, Bonderman, Rogers, or Robertson). He was never going to be higher than our #5 going into this year. Bringing in Willis later just confirmed that.

Considering that we got Renteria in the deal, I'm still quite happy.... Although it hasn't worked out on the field yet, on paper I think this deal was a huge plus for the Tigers.

Pissed at the rest of the pitching staff? Yes.

Pissed at Dombrowski for the moves? Hell no... he gave Leyland a top three AL team on paper. What they've done with it has certainly been disappointing though.

With Porcello in the wings for a September callup (and next year), and Rogers probably on his way out, I'm confident that Dombrowski will be looking for a free agent #1 or #2 this coming off season, regardless of this year's outcome.
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Postby Yoda » Thu May 22, 2008 10:03 am

Porcello won't come up this year. If they bring him up then it is a big mistake.
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Re: The Jurrjens trade

Postby Bloody Sox » Thu May 22, 2008 10:30 am

Yoda wrote:
Bloody Sox wrote:Well, you didn't need hindsight to know that the Tigers needed pitching, not hitting going into this year. Trading Miller and Jurrjens seemed silly at the time when they were only adding offense (and a pretty useless D-Train).


What has Miller done so far? He was universally rated higher than Jurrjens prior to the season. They were both prospects and no one knew how they would perform. Jurrjens could still fall apart. It's a long season.


I'm not blaming the Tigers for not knowing how Miller and Jurrjens would pan out, but when you need pitching you don't trade away MLB ready pitching prospects for hitting because as you said, you just don't know.
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Re: The Jurrjens trade

Postby BrettCB » Thu May 22, 2008 10:32 am

I also agree with Porcello not getting the call this year... The Tigers need to take their time and let him develop. He is too young to be rushing him to the majors with a September call-up. I honestly don't even see him with the big club in 2009... But that is just me.
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