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Veto? C.Utley involved.

Postby Brave New One » Mon May 19, 2008 5:33 pm

So, guy in last place just offered Utley for Hafner, Kisler, and A.Eithier. Veto-able? Guy in last place is clueless, and has a roster of bums who he could replace if he worked the wire. Guy he is trading with is his buddy, who obviously talked him into this one. Veto? Thoughts?
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Postby kvh_1fan » Mon May 19, 2008 6:35 pm

If the guy in last place is giving up Utley then it doesnt' sound like he is getting too bad of a deal...He is in last so obviously could use the help all around. Sometimes you have to trade your top guy for a few key pieces...
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Re: Veto? C.Utley involved.

Postby Bobbleheadrusty » Mon May 19, 2008 6:38 pm

Honestly I dont have a problem with that deal. If his team is that bad the trade makes sense. Thats a decent OF, and hes taking a flyer on Hafner bouncing back, but I dont see Kinsler being that big of a step down from Utley to make it a vetoable deal.

Call it a hail mary and let it go.
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Postby Matthias » Mon May 19, 2008 7:00 pm

If the guy in last place is giving up Utley then it doesnt' sound like he is getting too bad of a deal...He is in last so obviously could use the help all around. Sometimes you have to trade your top guy for a few key pieces...

Cute idea, except it doesn't fit the facts. None of those guys, except maybe Kinsler, is better than replacement-level.

Hafner: .229, 4HRs, 17Rs, and 20RBIs
Ethier: .287, 4HRs, 22Rs, and 18RBIs
Kinsler: .302, 3HRs, 35Rs, and 20RBIs

You can find guys like that on the WW (David Murphy, Ryan Ludwick, Akinori Iwamura are probably there). So just trading Kinsler for Utley doesn't make a whole lot of sense... or let me rephrase: is a terrible, terrible idea. But terrible ideas don't make themselves into vetoes.
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