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Postby Mookie4ever » Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:12 am

Pogotheostrich wrote:Buehrle is a good pitcher but he doesn't strike out enough guys.


compared to Lowe and Maddux?
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:23 pm

Buehrle 119 K last year and 5.05 K/9 career
Maddux 125 K last year and 6.27 K/9 career
Lowe 110 K last year and 6.02 K/9 career


Out of the 5 mentioned Buehrle is last on my list.
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Postby red » Fri Feb 27, 2004 1:32 pm

I like Buerhle a lot my concern is the pending 3-year downturn. Thrown a lot of pitches for a young guy.
Grant, he was second on my list regardless.
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Postby HOOTIE » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:51 am

Mookie4ever wrote:Miller
Buehrle - WSox ace, great second half - am I the only guy that likes him?
Wolf
Maddux
Lowe



Yep. Kudos for recognizing Miller. However Millers year wasn't really bad, his luck was. His strand rate was unlucky 70%.

Wolf
Miller
Maddux
Lowe
Buehrle

On a sidenote, spot in rotation is meaningless.
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Postby NZF » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:12 am

HOOTIE wrote:
On a sidenote, spot in rotation is meaningless.


I disagree. Spot in rotation as far as predicting matchups is meaningless but rotation order does still bear some thinking about.
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Postby ramble2 » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:46 am

New Zealand Fan wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:
On a sidenote, spot in rotation is meaningless.


I disagree. Spot in rotation as far as predicting matchups is meaningless but rotation order does still bear some thinking about.


Why?

Last year Seattle used only 5 guys to start games:

Garcia - 33 GS
Moyer - 33 GS
Franklin - 32 GS
Meche - 32 GS
Pineiro - 32 GS

As long as the pitcher in question has a solid spot in the rotation, he'll get the starts. There are a few exceptions. Sometimes the 5th SP will get skipped on some teams - but that usually indicates a not-very-solid grip on a rotation spot. I agree that spot in rotation doesn't translate into better pitching matchups significantly enough to matter, so I'm confused why you think it bears paying attention to.
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Postby NZF » Sat Feb 28, 2004 5:45 pm

ramble2 wrote:
New Zealand Fan wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:
On a sidenote, spot in rotation is meaningless.


I disagree. Spot in rotation as far as predicting matchups is meaningless but rotation order does still bear some thinking about.


Why?

Last year Seattle used only 5 guys to start games:

Garcia - 33 GS
Moyer - 33 GS
Franklin - 32 GS
Meche - 32 GS
Pineiro - 32 GS

As long as the pitcher in question has a solid spot in the rotation, he'll get the starts. There are a few exceptions. Sometimes the 5th SP will get skipped on some teams - but that usually indicates a not-very-solid grip on a rotation spot. I agree that spot in rotation doesn't translate into better pitching matchups significantly enough to matter, so I'm confused why you think it bears paying attention to.


You just answered your own question.
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