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Re: Top middle relievers to help with ratios

Postby rookies and cream » Sun May 18, 2008 6:44 pm

Not a good day for several guys discussed in this thread:

Bell, Wheeler, Dotel
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Re: Top middle relievers to help with ratios

Postby The_Natural » Sun May 18, 2008 9:32 pm

Nunez and Kuo both have SP eligibility.
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Re: Top middle relievers to help with ratios

Postby anti elian » Sun May 18, 2008 9:33 pm

Yeah, if you need the SP eligibility then Taylor Buchholz or Chad Gaudin.
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Re: Top middle relievers to help with ratios

Postby rookies and cream » Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:46 pm

Okajima's toast. He can no longer be trusted to help with ratios.

My list of elite MR'ers is dwindling. Now left with:

Marmol, Bell, Broxton, Linebrink, and Buchholz. Perhaps Zumaya, Casilla and Devine when they return from injuries. Not including Kuo because he's been used mostly in long relief and too sporadically by Torre.
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Re: Top middle relievers to help with ratios

Postby Grounded Polo » Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:20 pm

Okajima got the official boot from my team just now for Linebrink. In June, my relievers have given up 19 ER in 19 innings. If I had just benched them, I actually would have gained a point regardless of losing points in saves. :-/
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Re: Top middle relievers to help with ratios

Postby AussieDodger » Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:49 am

rookies and cream wrote:Okajima's toast. He can no longer be trusted to help with ratios.

My list of elite MR'ers is dwindling. Now left with:

Marmol, Bell, Broxton, Linebrink, and Buchholz. Perhaps Zumaya, Casilla and Devine when they return from injuries. Not including Kuo because he's been used mostly in long relief and too sporadically by Torre.


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Re: Top middle relievers to help with ratios

Postby NZ Eff » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:41 am

rookies and cream wrote:Okajima's toast. He can no longer be trusted to help with ratios.

My list of elite MR'ers is dwindling. Now left with:

Marmol, Bell, Broxton, Linebrink, and Buchholz. Perhaps Zumaya, Casilla and Devine when they return from injuries. Not including Kuo because he's been used mostly in long relief and too sporadically by Torre.



This just re-iterates how futile it is to use middle relievers as a strategy in fantasy baseball to help with ratios. For every Marmol there is 10 Okajimas. Too inconsistent, too difficult to predict and too few to confidently select from anyway. Never had been able to understand the fascination with using this strategy given how easily it is to pick up very decent starting pitching options on the waiver wire.
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Re: Top middle relievers to help with ratios

Postby AussieDodger » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:33 am

NZ Eff wrote:This just re-iterates how futile it is to use middle relievers as a strategy in fantasy baseball to help with ratios. For every Marmol there is 10 Okajimas. Too inconsistent, too difficult to predict and too few to confidently select from anyway. Never had been able to understand the fascination with using this strategy given how easily it is to pick up very decent starting pitching options on the waiver wire.


I disagree. Quality 8th innings guys have saved my a__ constantly this year. I play in deeper leagues though so the SP pickings aren't as bountiful.
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Re: Top middle relievers to help with ratios

Postby Inukchuk » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:57 am

NZ Eff wrote:This just re-iterates how futile it is to use middle relievers as a strategy in fantasy baseball to help with ratios. For every Marmol there is 10 Okajimas. Too inconsistent, too difficult to predict and too few to confidently select from anyway. Never had been able to understand the fascination with using this strategy given how easily it is to pick up very decent starting pitching options on the waiver wire.


Agree and disagree. I've tried to use MR when my pitching was weak, and it truly is a crap shoot. I do have Buchholz, but that's as much for Fuentes insurance as it is for ratio help. This year, I decided to try Betancourt and Neshek as the 2 headed MR monster. Oops.

As far as the comment that it's easy to pick up decent WW SP, I have to respectfully disagree on that one. It's a leper colony out there in my league... :-P
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Re: Top middle relievers to help with ratios

Postby NZ Eff » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:20 pm

AussieDodger wrote:I disagree. Quality 8th innings guys have saved my a__ constantly this year. I play in deeper leagues though so the SP pickings aren't as bountiful.


You've been lucky ;-)

The depth of league is irrelevant. The deeper the league the smaller the pool of decent SP options but also less of chance of getting MR's for a song. Standard leagues you can get anyone not named Marmol in the last few rounds.

If we did some research on this using cafe members leagues the futility of using MR's instead of SP's would become apparent.
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