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Postby gypsyspot » Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:48 pm

Who is better Webb or Santana?
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Postby WharfRat » Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:51 pm

wow....I think I take Webb. When in doubt, go with the guy in the league where pitchers bat.
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Postby kvillantz18 » Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:56 pm

I'll go with Santana. I like them both though. You'll be able to get Webb a bit later though I think.
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Postby Danimal » Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:57 pm

WharfRat wrote:wow....I think I take Webb. When in doubt, go with the guy in the league where pitchers bat.


Wanna expand on that thought?
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Postby sooner711 » Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:58 pm

I'd go with Santana and the K's
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Postby shuffcard » Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:21 am

I'll expand on his thought.

Would you rather your pitcher face frank thomas or randy johnson as the 9th hitter in the opposing lineup? One small advantage for SPs in the AL is that managers b/c they dont bat are more likely to pitch later in games.

However, i prefer johan though i think both are very good.
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Postby Lofunzo » Fri Feb 27, 2004 1:32 am

I like Santana. ;-D
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Postby Andy1234 » Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:08 am

Danimal wrote:
WharfRat wrote:wow....I think I take Webb. When in doubt, go with the guy in the league where pitchers bat.


Wanna expand on that thought?
I think he is saying that they are very close and that because Webb plays in the NL he would rank Webb over Santana.


I think Santana is the better pitcher, Webb isn't too bad but I'd rather have Santana.
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Postby eli81k » Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:17 am

Santana's 2003 stats as a starter:

18 GS - 110.1 IP
11 W - 2 L
2.85 ERA - 0.996 WHIP
27 BB - 109 K

That would be 110 H+BB allowed to go along with 109 stirkeouts. And fewer H+BB than innings pitched.

Despite being in the AL he had a better ERA as a starer (Webb had a 2.86 ERA as a starter last season). Johan's WHIP was better than Webb's 1.15, he had a better K/9 ratio, and a better K/BB ratio.

How is Webb a better pick under any circumstances? Webb was also a rookie last season, and Santana has been in the bigs since 2000, and has been stellar the past two seasons. The reason for that is Santana developed his best pitch before the 2001 campaign, a change-up he throws from two different grips to get two different kinds of break, that he uses to complement his mid-nities fastball (not bad for a lefty) and slider.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:20 am

They're both really good pitchers. I'd go with Santana, but I think it'll be easier to land Webb.

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Webb's adding another pitch. He's going to be nasty.
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