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Postby Yanks_Baby » Sun May 25, 2008 11:43 pm

People are going crazy over this kid./ He won't be a huge producer in fantasy this year. This on e guy wants him over Laffey and Blanton...

I just can't believew the effect hype has.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby fezzik » Sun May 25, 2008 11:51 pm

Yanks_Baby wrote:People are going crazy over this kid./ He won't be a huge producer in fantasy this year. This on e guy wants him over Laffey and Blanton...

I just can't believew the effect hype has.


I'm not even going after him with my 12th waiver priority...phenom schmenom!

Edit: I wanted to clarify the tone of my post, although the word schmenom should have been enough. My tone was this... ;-7
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sun May 25, 2008 11:51 pm

Yanks_Baby wrote:People are going crazy over this kid./ He won't be a huge producer in fantasy this year. This on e guy wants him over Laffey and Blanton...

I just can't believew the effect hype has.


I know Aaron Laffey won't. He's more of a finesse pitcher than Kershaw (thinking of Jeremy Sowers to some extent) and his ceiling just doesn't match the #1 potential Kershaw does (Laffey's more of a #3 at best over the long haul). Blanton is still useful, but again, his ceiling isn't quite up there with Kershaw's even in the immediate term.

Problem with having the overcautious sentiment in not getting caught up with the hype is that could also lead you to miss out on the Cole Hamelses and Tim Lincecums of the world. A fella like Laffey/Blanton can be useful, but the raw reward lies within Kershaw. It's just a matter of risk management, really.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby AussieDodger » Sun May 25, 2008 11:58 pm

If he gets to face San Diego and San Francisco a lot he might be worth something.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby fezzik » Mon May 26, 2008 12:02 am

AussieDodger wrote:If he gets to face San Diego and San Francisco a lot he might be worth something.


Or your fantasy teams offense Aussie... :-]

And he should get to face the teams you listed quite a bit, as well as pitch half his games in a L.A...a decent pitcher's park. His upside should warrant a roster spot over proven yet marginal SP's with lower ceilings. Unreasonable expectations should be tempered, but he's not regarded as being one of the best prospects in baseball because he's a pile of garbage. :-)
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby Yanks_Baby » Mon May 26, 2008 12:03 am

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Yanks_Baby wrote:People are going crazy over this kid./ He won't be a huge producer in fantasy this year. This on e guy wants him over Laffey and Blanton...

I just can't believew the effect hype has.


I know Aaron Laffey won't. He's more of a finesse pitcher than Kershaw (thinking of Jeremy Sowers to some extent) and his ceiling just doesn't match the #1 potential Kershaw does (Laffey's more of a #3 at best over the long haul). Blanton is still useful, but again, his ceiling isn't quite up there with Kershaw's even in the immediate term.

Problem with having the overcautious sentiment in not getting caught up with the hype is that could also lead you to miss out on the Cole Hamelses and Tim Lincecums of the world. A fella like Laffey/Blanton can be useful, but the raw reward lies within Kershaw. It's just a matter of risk management, really.

Kershaw doesn't have tjhe maturity or control for the bigs yet. I'm jusdt not buying it yet. I think 4.50 era 1.35 whip would be optimistic. Look at what jhappened to adenhart in his few starts. he got rocked. Pitchers need more maturity to contribute in fantasy.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby rookies and cream » Mon May 26, 2008 12:19 am

Kershaw is the #1 pitching prospect in baseball. Adenhart isn't even top 10. Yes, Kershaw's walk rate is a bit high, but he's made improvements this year (down to 8.6%/PA in minors) and that's really his only flaw. His K rate is insane.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Mon May 26, 2008 12:55 am

I'm really annoyed at yahoo right now. Because they added him to the database late, I didn't get his start today despite having the #1 priority.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby The Artful Dodger » Mon May 26, 2008 1:21 am

Yanks_Baby wrote:
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Yanks_Baby wrote:People are going crazy over this kid./ He won't be a huge producer in fantasy this year. This on e guy wants him over Laffey and Blanton...

I just can't believew the effect hype has.


I know Aaron Laffey won't. He's more of a finesse pitcher than Kershaw (thinking of Jeremy Sowers to some extent) and his ceiling just doesn't match the #1 potential Kershaw does (Laffey's more of a #3 at best over the long haul). Blanton is still useful, but again, his ceiling isn't quite up there with Kershaw's even in the immediate term.

Problem with having the overcautious sentiment in not getting caught up with the hype is that could also lead you to miss out on the Cole Hamelses and Tim Lincecums of the world. A fella like Laffey/Blanton can be useful, but the raw reward lies within Kershaw. It's just a matter of risk management, really.

Kershaw doesn't have tjhe maturity or control for the bigs yet. I'm jusdt not buying it yet. I think 4.50 era 1.35 whip would be optimistic. Look at what jhappened to adenhart in his few starts. he got rocked. Pitchers need more maturity to contribute in fantasy.


Well, what do you expect? Most high-upside rookies have to gain seasoning at the Major League level anyway, but guys like Cueto, Scherzer, and Kershaw do have the tools to develop and develop well in the bigs. I also think Nick Adenhart isn't an apt analogy as his K rate as he was promoted up through the Angels' farm system was a bit underwhelming and so was the control. His ceiling simply isn't as good as Kershaw.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby hybrid » Mon May 26, 2008 6:24 am

Yanks_Baby wrote:Kershaw doesn't have tjhe maturity or control for the bigs yet. I'm jusdt not buying it yet. I think 4.50 era 1.35 whip would be optimistic. Look at what jhappened to adenhart in his few starts. he got rocked. Pitchers need more maturity to contribute in fantasy.


Doesn't have the maturity? Just curious how one determines that when there has been nothing saying he isn't? Young top arms have come into the league and put up better numbers than ones you mentioned, for ex. Felix, Hamels, Beckett, Hughes (would of been better with out the injury), Liriano, Ankiel, Oswalt, Prior, Greinke, Cain, Verlander, even someone like Duke has. Also the Adenhart comp is pretty far off, he really isn't on the same level as Kershaw.
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