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Postby jake_twothousandfive » Sun May 25, 2008 9:03 pm

kaiser wrote:okay- 6 IP, 2ER, 7K, 102 pitches, ND.

Comments?

I like the fact that he was able to go 6 innings. Everyone knows he can put up good K numbers, given his great fastball and knee-buckling curveball, but I thought his endurance would be what largely held him back this year.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby Yanks_Baby » Sun May 25, 2008 9:35 pm

K:BB is the most important nratio with Clayton. However, Cards aren't a patient team so I'd wait to see another start before passing juidgement.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby Althalius » Sun May 25, 2008 10:08 pm

JohnBazzell wrote:it is concerning he has no change up. I watched today, the guy has two pitches. He locates his fastball well and has a wicked, but slow curveball. I'm worried once hitters recognize its not a fastball in the future they will hit his curve. He only has one offspeed pitch, so u know what it is as soon as you recognize offspeed. Pujols did what most Major League batters will do, sit back on his curveball and drive it. Its just it will take time a couple times seeing him for batters to have his number. Pujols, being the player he is, ripped his curveball down the line like it was whiffle ball.


I didn't watch the game, but I do know that Clayton has a changeup to complement his fastball and curve. Not sure if he just didn't throw it today, or if he threw it rarely.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby J.C.Fighter » Sun May 25, 2008 10:11 pm

Basically if he can't locate his fastball , hitters will sit on his Curve...
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby J35J » Sun May 25, 2008 11:00 pm

Thats the thing with dominant young SPers. They usually can walk right through the minors with 1 or 2 pitches....they soon realize they can't get away with that in the bigs and that is where the fun comes in....do they struggle from that point forward or do they break out that 3rd and/or 4th pitch and locate it consistantly. The only thing I'm going to watch the rest of this year is the BB totals....if he can keep those in check then he'll be an ace for quite a while.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby RAmst23 » Sun May 25, 2008 11:05 pm

Yanks_Baby wrote:K:BB is the most important nratio with Clayton. However, Cards aren't a patient team so I'd wait to see another start before passing juidgement.


Cards have more walks than any other team in baseball so... :-?
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby AussieDodger » Sun May 25, 2008 11:20 pm

Should I trade him for Kevin Millar?
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby Yanks_Baby » Sun May 25, 2008 11:25 pm

RAmst23 wrote:
Yanks_Baby wrote:K:BB is the most important nratio with Clayton. However, Cards aren't a patient team so I'd wait to see another start before passing juidgement.


Cards have more walks than any other team in baseball so... :-?

Sure, when you take all of Albert's IBB's into consideration though, it;s significantly less.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sun May 25, 2008 11:40 pm

JohnBazzell wrote:it is concerning he has no change up. I watched today, the guy has two pitches. He locates his fastball well and has a wicked, but slow curveball. I'm worried once hitters recognize its not a fastball in the future they will hit his curve. He only has one offspeed pitch, so u know what it is as soon as you recognize offspeed. Pujols did what most Major League batters will do, sit back on his curveball and drive it. Its just it will take time a couple times seeing him for batters to have his number. Pujols, being the player he is, ripped his curveball down the line like it was whiffle ball.


I think I touched upon this. The key for Kershaw is to come along with that changeup, but that doesn't necessarily mean he can't live solely off a fastball/curveball combo (like Sandy Koufax did). Kershaw has a surprisingly deceptive delivery for a power pitcher which can keep opposing batters off balance for at least the first go-round given his lively movement of his pitches. As long as he paces himself well and keeps learning how to harness command of his two top pitches, Kershaw will be fine, even though adding a change-up will make him a more complete pitcher than he otherwise would be.
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Re: kershaw hype thread

Postby activechamp2006 » Sun May 25, 2008 11:42 pm

Yanks_Baby wrote:
RAmst23 wrote:
Yanks_Baby wrote:K:BB is the most important nratio with Clayton. However, Cards aren't a patient team so I'd wait to see another start before passing juidgement.


Cards have more walks than any other team in baseball so... :-?

Sure, when you take all of Albert's IBB's into consideration though, it;s significantly less.


There is always going to be one player leading the way as far as walks go, rarely is it split up between every person on the team
That's a pretty bad argument.
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