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Rich Harden Healthy?

Postby Sunspot » Wed May 14, 2008 11:03 am

Just had to do it!
converge241 wrote:*serious tone* and Harden only felt fatigue, due to the layoff, after the last start no arm or other problems at all, with the velocity there and no ill-effects since the outing seems pretty encouraging so far

someone mentioned he was hitting 93-95 but he actually hit 97

*serious tone off*

So start the "Rich Harden Healthy?" thread! ok? :-X :-X
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Re: Rich Harden Healthy?

Postby ROC AllStars » Wed May 14, 2008 2:09 pm

I give him about 2 weeks. My prediction: Harden back to the DL on June 3.
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Re: Rich Harden Healthy?

Postby IrishDrunk » Wed May 14, 2008 3:32 pm

I give him 7 innings.

He'll pitch into the 7th his first game back...about 110 pitches.

Common sense would say limit his pitch count, but, since he's pitching so well, they'll let him go 7 strong.

The next day, he'll complain of back problems, and he'll be back on the DL within a week.
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Re: Rich Harden Healthy?

Postby DaShiz23 » Thu May 15, 2008 7:24 pm

and this wasnt expected?......oh, nevermind, some people never learn
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Re: Rich Harden Healthy?

Postby mde » Sun May 18, 2008 1:49 am

IrishDrunk wrote:I give him 7 innings.

He'll pitch into the 7th his first game back...about 110 pitches.

Common sense would say limit his pitch count, but, since he's pitching so well, they'll let him go 7 strong.

The next day, he'll complain of back problems, and he'll be back on the DL within a week.


Hmm, you're right so far about the 7 strong innings. And, he threw 102 pitches, close enough :). Now let's see if he complains about anything tomorrow...
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Re: Rich Harden Healthy?

Postby wildbill » Sun May 18, 2008 3:37 am

If he makes it an entire month without landing on the DL again it's time go to Vegas and bet the house.
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Re: Rich Harden Healthy?

Postby bAsKeTcAsE86 » Sun May 18, 2008 3:58 am

I really wish I had this guy on my team so, after he has four or five good starts in a row now, I could trade him and watch him go on the DL two days later...several guys in my league are in denial and think this is the year that Harden finally stays healthy...
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Re: Rich Harden Healthy?

Postby SimbaPenn » Sun May 18, 2008 10:37 am

If you have him, trade him while he has good value before it's too late (speaking from prior experience). You'll get 3-4 good-amazing starts before his year is done. And even if it's not, do you really want to have to worry? Let it be someone else's problem.

He's kind of like the grail in Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade (it was on last night.) A reenactment if you will:

Ilsa: I can keep Rich Harden Indy! He won't go on the DL this time I know it!
Indiana: Ilsa, give me your other hand!
Ilsa: I can keep him. He'll save my fantasy season!
Indiana: I can't hold you sweetie!
Ilsa: AAAAAHHHHH! (falls to her death)

(Indiana falls into similar predicament)

Dr. Jones: Give me your hand junior!
Indiana: I can keep him dad, his last start was amazing!
Dr. Jones: You're slipping son, give me your other hand!
Indiana: He had 7 Ks and his WHIP was incredible. There's so much upside!
Dr. Jones: Indiana...let him go.

(Indiana is saved. Rich Harden falls into pit of despair, thus going on the DL for the rest of the season.)
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Re: Rich Harden Healthy?

Postby pappymojo » Sun May 18, 2008 11:24 am

SimbaPenn wrote:He's kind of like the grail in Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade (it was on last night.) A reenactment if you will:

Ilsa: I can keep Rich Harden Indy! He won't go on the DL this time I know it!
Indiana: Ilsa, give me your other hand!
Ilsa: I can keep him. He'll save my fantasy season!
Indiana: I can't hold you sweetie!
Ilsa: AAAAAHHHHH! (falls to her death)

(Indiana falls into similar predicament)

Dr. Jones: Give me your hand junior!
Indiana: I can keep him dad, his last start was amazing!
Dr. Jones: You're slipping son, give me your other hand!
Indiana: He had 7 Ks and his WHIP was incredible. There's so much upside!
Dr. Jones: Indiana...let him go.

(Indiana is saved. Rich Harden falls into pit of despair, thus going on the DL for the rest of the season.)


The difference being that you don't die if you have Harden on your team and he goes on the DL. Instead you move him to the DL, pick someone else up and move on from there.

I have Haren, Vazquez, Burnett and Grienke on my staff already. I'll hold onto Harden and hope for the best. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt. It won't ruin my season.
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Re: Rich Harden Healthy?

Postby Wrangor » Thu May 29, 2008 1:40 pm

In H2H leagues, Harden doesn't hurt you one bit. He gives your team a huge boost when he is in the lineup (3 straight quality starts) and when he goes on the DL you pick up a waiver. You shouldn't have spent a high pick on him anyway, so most of the guys picked around where Harden was taken have probably already been dropped. I love having Harden on my team, because I have so little invested in him. If somebody offers me value for him though I won't hesitate to trade him, but I am not looking to give him away. It is hard to find a pitcher in a H2H league where you feel absolutely comfortable putting him in your lineup against almost anyone.
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