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How often do you see a win AND(!!) a hold?

Postby Y`s Guy » Sun May 11, 2008 7:25 pm

My man Santiago Casilla gets 17+ points with his outing today.

Wow!

Imagine if I wasn't already up by 45. :-D

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Re: How often do you see a win AND(!!) a hold?

Postby NZ Eff » Sun May 11, 2008 7:37 pm

Casilla got the win but he definitely didn't get a hold. I'm assuming he actually got a blown save and the win. That may cost you some points.
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Re: How often do you see a win AND(!!) a hold?

Postby CBMGreatOne » Sun May 11, 2008 7:47 pm

The answer to your question is about as often as you see a Save and a perfect game.

Jose Valverde was mistakenly credited with both earlier this week, as I'm sure Casilla was mistakenly credited this time.
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Re: How often do you see a win AND(!!) a hold?

Postby JasonSeahorn » Sun May 11, 2008 9:21 pm

Cole Hamels does that every game. Even the games he doesn't pitch.
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Re: How often do you see a win AND(!!) a hold?

Postby broomulack » Sun May 11, 2008 9:22 pm

A hold is sometimes incorrectly credited and then corrected afterwards. The definition of a hold includes "does not finish the game" or similar wording...
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Re: How often do you see a win AND(!!) a hold?

Postby Half Massed » Sun May 11, 2008 9:37 pm

You get a hold when you protect a lead and you get a win when you were pitching the previous inning and your team gets ahead of the other team in runs for the final time. You can't have it both ways.
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Re: How often do you see a win AND(!!) a hold?

Postby JohnnyBenchBest Ever » Sun May 11, 2008 10:18 pm

Hawkins did it early in the season for the Yankees.
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Re: How often do you see a win AND(!!) a hold?

Postby NZ Eff » Sun May 11, 2008 11:00 pm

JohnnyBenchBest Ever wrote:Hawkins did it early in the season for the Yankees.


He won the game, he didn't get a hold as well.
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Re: How often do you see a win AND(!!) a hold?

Postby broomulack » Sun May 11, 2008 11:07 pm

Actually I am a dummy even though I was technically right, but for the wrong reason. I confused a win with a save when citing the definition of a hold. But you still can't have both because a hold is awarded when you protect a lead. A pitcher can't get a hold if he blows the lead. And since the only way to get a win in that situation is to blow the lead and have your team save your bacon, you are SOL on having both. anyone credited with both is done so incorrectly and should have it corrected.
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Re: How often do you see a win AND(!!) a hold?

Postby Y`s Guy » Sun May 11, 2008 11:35 pm

We'll see if this shakes out but both Yahoo and CBS have given Casilla a HOLD and a WIN.
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