What bugs me more is when a guy offers me a trade that may or not may not be even, but then trys to convince me to do it by telling me how great the players he is giving up are, and how the players he is asking for are "certain to not keep performing the way they currently are." or some garbage like that.
kaiser wrote:What bugs me more is when a guy offers me a trade that may or not may not be even, but then trys to convince me to do it by telling me how great the players he is giving up are, and how the players he is asking for are "certain to not keep performing the way they currently are." or some garbage like that.
Yeah. Like his goal is to build the worst team possible.
I hate when I have 6 outfielders, and someone offers a trade involving my starting third basemen to whom I have no backup for another outfielder. Of course I'm not going to do that trade. When I send out trade offers I try to be considerate to what his lineup will look like if he made the deal, because I know he isn't going to make a deal that leaves him having to scramble to the waiver wire just to fill a spot in his starting lineup.
Personally, low-ball offers (and I mean the Ludwick for Santana variety) are telling me one thing: "Hi. I think you're a bleeping moron. Want to hit the accept key and confirm please?"
Those aren't invitations to trade; they're an opportunity to click the wrong button and get hosed.
Whenever I initiate a trade, I try to broach it in very general terms: "I see you need some hitting; I could use some pitching. Are you interested?" And then go from there, respecting the other guy. People are always going to have different player valuations (generally skewed towards the guys they have... Cueto's a rock star!!!) but you can sometimes find room in which to strike a deal if you're both adults about it.
0-3 to 4-3. Worst choke in the history of baseball. Enough said.
sblinyy wrote:I hate when I have 6 outfielders, and someone offers a trade involving my starting third basemen to whom I have no backup for another outfielder. Of course I'm not going to do that trade.
I know exactly what you mean. I have C.Lee, Hamilton, Crawford, C.Granderson, J. Bruce and V. Wells on my team and this one guy offered me Victorino and Theriot for Uggla. I think this type of play may be worse then "low balling". It's like he's saying, "I know that you're never going to start this OF (Victorino) with all the OF you all ready have, but will you take him anyway and give me Uggla?"
I countered w/ Granderson and Hudson for Teixeira.
I get these all the time every year (across 8 leagues but hey im sure everyone does even if they are in ONE league), I never get offended though. If it's really awful I have some fun and just leave it out there and make someone think im pondering it (most recent was brandon morrow for chipper jones along with a great story about Morrow's promise and chipper's risk). If its just bad but not insulting I will just counter with what it would cost etc. I know plnety of people in those leagues who think you desecrated a loved ones grave even if its slightly below par though you hear about it firsthand if it was you offering the deal, or seconhand when they relate "Guess what owner x sent me" or always the "best" - on e-mails or the message board etc. I always get a great laugh over someone sending out a league e-mail to go on a tirade about the insulting offer he got on player Y.
"I'm the man with the ball. I'm the man who can throw it faster than F***. So that's why I'm better than anyone in the world." - Kenny Powers
converge241 wrote:I get these all the time every year (across 8 leagues but hey im sure everyone does even if they are in ONE league), I never get offended though. If it's really awful I have some fun and just leave it out there and make someone think im pondering it (most recent was brandon morrow for chipper jones along with a great story about Morrow's promise and chipper's risk). If its just bad but not insulting I will just counter with what it would cost etc. I know plnety of people in those leagues who think you desecrated a loved ones grave even if its slightly below par though you hear about it firsthand if it was you offering the deal, or seconhand when they relate "Guess what owner x sent me" or always the "best" - on e-mails or the message board etc. I always get a great laugh over someone sending out a league e-mail to go on a tirade about the insulting offer he got on player Y.
My point, exactly, and i guess it's why I started this thread a month or so ago (it's been reborn somehow in the last day or two). It always just seems so silly and pointless to get worked up over a trade offer that is bad, even if you feel your intelligence is being insulted. Just explain to the "offer-er" why exactly his offer is so putrid and move on with life.
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