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Re: Trading for Waiver Priority = Collusion?

Postby Snakes Gould » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:32 pm

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flloyd wrote:I am very anti-veto but I can see where the Commish is coming from. It seems a little fishy since you were influencing the other owner to make moves that you suspect he would not have done otherwise, in the process you harmed other teams that would have used their higher waiver priority on him.


and this is coming from smoove, who once tried to pull off a cross sport trade, houshmanzadeh for a bum FA and then in baseball david ortiz for bum fa.) just have to keep his shady tactics in line :-b


A) That cross-sport trade wasn't my idea. B) There was no "bum FA" involved liar, this was back in 04 so I don't recall the exact players but it was a fair trade in both sports where I downgraded in football to upgrade in baseball. C) You were the commissioner then as well and allowed the trade! :-b


a. doesnt matter whose idea it was b. i dont recall the players either, but i know it was lopsided. c. i tried to veto it and everyone had such a huge problem with it, so it didnt happen.

again, i have (had) no problem with people trading their waiver priorities, but the way this situation came about was fishy to me. i said the veto comment half jokingly anyhow .
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Re: Trading for Waiver Priority = Collusion?

Postby RocketsDWM » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:00 pm

Who did you trade for Cueto?
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Re: Trading for Waiver Priority = Collusion?

Postby smoovethug » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:57 pm

RocketsDWM wrote:Who did you trade for Cueto?


It was really just an idea I had since at the time I really wanted Cueto. I never got in deep enough to offer anything since the commish said he'd veto the trade, which I thought was bullsh :-X . Oh and BTW the commish, Snakes himself, held the #2 waiver priority and claimed Cueto. Coincedence???
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Re: Trading for Waiver Priority = Collusion?

Postby bigh0rt » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:58 pm

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RocketsDWM wrote:Who did you trade for Cueto?


I didn't make a trade for him since the commish said he'd veto the trade, which I thought was bullsh :-X . Oh and BTW the commish, Snakes himself, held the #2 waiver priority and claimed Cueto. Coincedence???

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Re: Trading for Waiver Priority = Collusion?

Postby flloyd » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:13 pm

smoovethug wrote:
RocketsDWM wrote:Who did you trade for Cueto?


It was really just an idea I had since at the time I really wanted Cueto. I never got in deep enough to offer anything since the commish said he'd veto the trade, which I thought was bullsh :-X . Oh and BTW the commish, Snakes himself, held the #2 waiver priority and claimed Cueto. Coincedence???


That definitely should have gone to a league wide vote with the Commish, who would be the one benefiting the most, abstaining from the vote.
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Re: Trading for Waiver Priority = Collusion?

Postby fezzik » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:25 pm

smoovethug wrote:
RocketsDWM wrote:Who did you trade for Cueto?


It was really just an idea I had since at the time I really wanted Cueto. I never got in deep enough to offer anything since the commish said he'd veto the trade, which I thought was bullsh :-X . Oh and BTW the commish, Snakes himself, held the #2 waiver priority and claimed Cueto. Coincedence???


Slight conflict of interest... :-b

In theory, as long as his decision was made without taking the fact he had the #2 waiver pick into consideration...the decision is understandable, but perhaps in the minority of the general concensus. But it's going to be hard to convince someone that's not the reason he made the choice...even if he would make the same choice if he had waiver priority #12. Since the perception of fairness is almost as important as the fairness itself, it probably should have gone to a league vote or something.
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Re: Trading for Waiver Priority = Collusion?

Postby Snakes Gould » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:20 pm

for what its worth, i dont think anyone would question my "fairness" to the league.

we had maybe a 2 minute discussion about it, and i didnt even take it serious. this was about a month ago, so im not even really sure why it was brought up now. if he had wanted me to bring it up for debate/discussion in our league, i would have obliged.
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Re: Trading for Waiver Priority = Collusion?

Postby smoovethug » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:36 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:this was about a month ago, so im not even really sure why it was brought up now.


I had the same idea with Scherzer.
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Re: Trading for Waiver Priority = Collusion?

Postby Snakes Gould » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:38 pm

smoovethug wrote:
Snakes Gould wrote:this was about a month ago, so im not even really sure why it was brought up now.


I had the same idea with Scherzer.


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Re: Trading for Waiver Priority = Collusion?

Postby fezzik » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:39 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:for what its worth, i dont think anyone would question my "fairness" to the league.

we had maybe a 2 minute discussion about it, and i didnt even take it serious. this was about a month ago, so im not even really sure why it was brought up now. if he had wanted me to bring it up for debate/discussion in our league, i would have obliged.


I'm not questioning the fairness, just the perception...no matter how above reproach you are, the fact remains that you were benefiting from the transaction not taking place...that's a conflict of interest. I believe that you are a fair individual and commish...and your fellow managers most likely feel the same way. I also am not in said league and really don't know how it went down or the conversation that took place.

I'm going to be keeping an eye on you Mr. Snake...your name even sounds a bit devious. ;-)
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