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Kazmir for smoltz vetoable?

Postby A817 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:02 pm

kazmir is coming of an injury and smoltz looks like he will be out for a long the time. Is this trade vetoable? the trade was completed today after smoltz bad news.
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Re: Kazmir for smoltz vetoable?

Postby rb11 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:22 pm

not in the slightest
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Re: Kazmir for smoltz vetoable?

Postby flloyd » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:27 pm

No way in hell is that vetoable.
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Re: Kazmir for smoltz vetoable?

Postby Matthias » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:55 pm

Hm: depends on the situation. How well do you know these guys doing the trade?

It's not the worst trade I've seen but it's very far from being the best. News I see has Smoltz being out for the next month and at 40 years old, you gotta wonder.
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Re: Kazmir for smoltz vetoable?

Postby Russell James » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:28 pm

Nah, I'll be surprised if either of them have 20 starts.
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Re: Kazmir for smoltz vetoable?

Postby noseeum » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:48 pm

I have a disclosure rule in most leagues I'm in where owners are obligated to disclose injuries. If the guy didn't know about Smoltz' injury, then I would reverse it and admonish the shifty owner for selling damaged goods. But that's in my leagues where we have that rule established.

It's been a few days, so I don't see how the guy wouldn't know.
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Re: Kazmir for smoltz vetoable?

Postby A817 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:14 am

hey thanks, the guy didnt know the degree of smoltz injury and that he will go to the dl, since that news came today. So it got vetoed.
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Re: Kazmir for smoltz vetoable?

Postby WaCougMBS » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:21 am

flloyd wrote:No way in hell is that vetoable.


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Re: Kazmir for smoltz vetoable?

Postby Russell James » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:18 am

The guy didn't know the "extent" of Smoltz's injury.

He should be penalized for being an idiot.
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Re: Kazmir for smoltz vetoable?

Postby flloyd » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:57 am

As an owner of both I've been following both of their injuries. It was clear since Sunday's start that there was a very good chance that Smoltz would be back on the DL. Quiote frankly if the person who traded for him didn't know the "extent" of his injury then I think that that is his fault. I think the only time it might be fair to veto a trade like this is if it were a case like Tulowitski last night; that is someone with no injury history, you're watching the game see he's been pretty hurt, propose a trade to someone who doesn't see any news on the injury and then quickly accepts. At least in that instance there was kind of an unfair balance in information, however everyone should have known about both Smoltz's and Kazmir's status.

In the end both before and after injury I think there are good arguments for each player and it was in no way vetoable.
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