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Re: Let's Contemplate Scott Olsen

Postby Yoda » Wed May 07, 2008 5:56 pm

NZ Eff wrote:
Yoda wrote:
LOL that 'study' is a complete joke as I suspected.

You don't even consider the talent with the group that improved versus the group that regressed.



Why is that relevant? Isn't that stating the obvious? The purpose of the study was to identify pitchers that could be great sleepers moving into their third year (ie. those that improved in their second) more than expecting a 70% regression among second year guys.

This theory threw up Jake Peavy as I mentioned in February '04 as a guy to target and look what happened. I also mentioned Garland who in 2005 was talked about in CY voting.


The only thing that these guys have in common is the fact that it is their 2nd season. Nothing else. Size, shape, age, experience, skill level, talent are completely ignored in your 'study'. Players should be looked at individually.
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Re: Let's Contemplate Scott Olsen

Postby NZ Eff » Wed May 07, 2008 6:13 pm

Yoda wrote:The only thing that these guys have in common is the fact that it is their 2nd season. Nothing else. Size, shape, age, experience, skill level, talent are completely ignored in your 'study'. Players should be looked at individually.


You're getting way too complicated. It's a simple study based on familiarity. Nothing to do with anything else.

Call it a joke, call it anything you want but I'm very comfortable with the results and use it as a valuable drafting tool in March with a great deal of success.
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Re: Let's Contemplate Scott Olsen

Postby Element » Wed May 07, 2008 9:35 pm

In '06, Olsen was touching 92-96 on the gun. He is now sitting between 86-90. His location has been much better, but it's hard to get excited about a lefty that has a fastball under 90mph and doesn't miss bats. Sooner or later, but things are going to happen. Now is the time to sell him.
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Re: Let's Contemplate Scott Olsen

Postby kcs261 » Wed May 07, 2008 11:41 pm

I'm not big on the sell high idea. I would keep playing the guy until he gives people a reason to drop him.
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Re: Let's Contemplate Scott Olsen

Postby Yoda » Thu May 08, 2008 9:11 am

23/19 K/BB in 44 IP is not going to cut it. I would sell.
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Re: Let's Contemplate Scott Olsen

Postby flloyd » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:00 pm

rjforlife wrote:His IWHPTS is excellent this year, so I am buying. Thats "I watched him pitch this season" for anyone who didnt know. ;-)


His line since May 7th: 70.7 INN, 1 W, 3 L, 41 K, 4.84 ERA, 1.42 WHIP.

Still buying?
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Re: Let's Contemplate Scott Olsen

Postby AquaMan2342 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:19 pm

flloyd wrote:
rjforlife wrote:His IWHPTS is excellent this year, so I am buying. Thats "I watched him pitch this season" for anyone who didnt know. ;-)


His line since May 7th: 70.7 INN, 1 W, 3 L, 41 K, 4.84 ERA, 1.42 WHIP.

Still buying?


Of course not.

Fangraphs covered him today: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.ph ... l-find-you
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