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Re: Thoughts on Dice-K... walks a big problem?

Postby Matthias » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:47 pm

Field wrote:Isn't this exactly what Billingsley did yesterday? I haven't seen any noticeable difference in Dice-K's approach so far this year. On the surface his results are better, but that's largely due to sample size. Matsuzaka still nibbles far too much and doesn't pitch to contact. I never insinuated that Bills or Cain would outproduce Dice-K this year, I just said that they were in a similarly frustrating stage of development. Even so, Cain and Billingsley posted better fantasy numbers LAST season (according to Yahoo ranks) than Dice-K so to say that you expect Dice-K to be a top 10 SP and that there's no way the other two could doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I think you are looking far too closely at the YTD figures after only a handful of starts.

There was a lot of pressure and focus on Matsuzaka last season. I believe a year of adjustment will allow him to have a better season this year than Cain or Billingsley, that's all. And I'm not so concerned about his walk rate as long as his WHIP rate stays low enough.
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Re: Thoughts on Dice-K... walks a big problem?

Postby Spartans Rule » Mon May 05, 2008 11:09 pm

1K, 8 BB in five innings tonight. Somehow gets out of it with only 2 hits and 1 earned run, and goes to 5-0 on the season.

To me, Dice-K is screaming sell high right now, especially if the guys in your league aren't real big on sabermetrics. He's 5-0 with a 2.43 ERA and has big name recognition value. To the untrained eye, it looks like his breakout year. But 27 BB in 40.2 IP means trouble ahead. It has to, right?
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Re: Thoughts on Dice-K... walks a big problem?

Postby CBMGreatOne » Tue May 06, 2008 1:35 am

Spartans Rule wrote:1K, 8 BB in five innings tonight. Somehow gets out of it with only 2 hits and 1 earned run, and goes to 5-0 on the season.

To me, Dice-K is screaming sell high right now, especially if the guys in your league aren't real big on sabermetrics. He's 5-0 with a 2.43 ERA and has big name recognition value. To the untrained eye, it looks like his breakout year. But 27 BB in 40.2 IP means trouble ahead. It has to, right?


I might try to sell him high, but my league counts K/BB, so it won't be easy. On my staff I have Daisuke, Billingsley, and Hill, all of which have murdered my K/BB thus far although all of them had respectable numbers in that category last year.

If Daisuke can start to perform at about his last year average of 2.5 K/BB, he should keep his other peripherals looking good. Today was probably a low point for his value in competitive leagues. Most owners know that 8 BBs to 1 K is a red flag.
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Re: Thoughts on Dice-K... walks a big problem?

Postby Kingctb27 » Tue May 06, 2008 3:13 am

yes, if it keeps up this will be a huge problem. Interesting enough, Dice K's walks were not near this bad last year. It looked like he was trying to pitch for the Strike out tonight and the Mo-town hitters where not going for anything. Have him in my big money auction league, and I am tempted to trade him for someone like Cano right now.
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Re: Thoughts on Dice-K... walks a big problem?

Postby nsulham » Tue May 06, 2008 4:38 am

FWIW, Daisuke was pretty under the weather all day so that might have had a little something to do with the unusual amount of walks. That's not letting him off the hook for other performances though, just that I doubt we'll see another eight-walk game.
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Re: Thoughts on Dice-K... walks a big problem?

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Tue May 06, 2008 8:50 am

nsulham wrote: I doubt we'll see another eight-walk game.

I sure hope you're right....
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Re: Thoughts on Dice-K... walks a big problem?

Postby Dan Lambskin » Tue May 06, 2008 9:05 am

i think Daisuke is Japanese for "walk"
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Re: Thoughts on Dice-K... walks a big problem?

Postby Relentless » Tue May 06, 2008 12:14 pm

To me seriously, it looks like he is scared to throw strikes in the middle of the plate. He always try to paint the corners. I've noticed this since watching him pitch from last year. I wonder if he was also like this in Japan.
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Re: Thoughts on Dice-K... walks a big problem?

Postby JoshExley » Tue May 06, 2008 12:36 pm

Relentless wrote:To me seriously, it looks like he is scared to throw strikes in the middle of the plate. He always try to paint the corners. I've noticed this since watching him pitch from last year. I wonder if he was also like this in Japan.


He is so frustrating to watch as a fan. Throws so many pitches and you want to yell at him to just throw a strike!
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Re: Thoughts on Dice-K... walks a big problem?

Postby thedude » Tue May 06, 2008 12:37 pm

He doesn't really give up hits, but the walks are huge problem in that he is having to leave game early. Dice-K is turning into a modern day Nolan Ryan, and that is not a compliment.
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