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Re: problem with keepers and a bitter manager

Postby WyldStallyn » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:52 am

i agree that this thing is rediculous. how the commish made such a stupid mistake is beyond me. i was away when this was all going on and am rather surprised the commish didnt correct the problem sooner

sorry bout this being in the wrong forum. rough night, posted this morning before i had my coffee X-I
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Re: problem with keepers and a bitter manager

Postby noseeum » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:18 am

How about the commish loses one of his keepers to the guy who lost Pena? It was the commish's mistake, not his.

Why wasn't the draft stopped at the spot where Carlos was drafted and re-done? Why didn't someone call this dude to work it out the day after the draft? Totally mishandled by the commish all around. It's his team that should suffer if any team has to in order to keep the season going.
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Re: problem with keepers and a bitter manager

Postby Art Vandelay » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:26 am

What's really ridiculous about this whole situation, to me at least, is that the primary concern seems to be making sure that the person who wrongfully drafted Pena isn't upset, when it should be making this right by the guy who had one of his keepers taken out from under him. Nobody at the draft thought it was odd that he protected Tony Pena but let Carlos Pena go back into the pool? If I were in charge, the first priority would be to get the owner his guy back ASAP, then figure out compensation for the other owner.
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Re: problem with keepers and a bitter manager

Postby great gretzky » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:32 am

You lose your pick in that round. At least that's the penalty we have in my keeper leagues. We slot guys based upon round, not dollar value. And if we are forced to use Yahoo, you are responsbile for picking your guys in the correct round, and not picking other people's keepers. you pick someone else's, they pick a placeholder, and you lose that round pick. You can make up the roster spot at the end before waivers by telling me who you want remaining. It hink it's the only fair way to do it if you use an imperfect system. By rights, you should be intimately familiar with the keepers. And if a guy is too good to be true in a keeper draft, you better check thrice before pulling the trigger.

In my opinion, who cares if the guy who wrongfully has Carlos Pena is upset? Really what claim does he have?
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Re: problem with keepers and a bitter manager

Postby BronXBombers51 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:08 am

Total BS move. I'd be out of that league in a second if that happened to me. :-t :-t
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Re: problem with keepers and a bitter manager

Postby one ton » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:10 am

I just can't even understand how it got to this point. How did this not get dealt with before the season started? I'd have to say all three teams involved are at fault.

Unfortunately, this seems like it could be a fatal blow to your league, at least for this season. No matter what you do people are going to feel like it was compromised.

The only way I can think of to level the playing field is to make every other team drop one of their keepers. Then hold a lottery to set a new waiver order. Then everyone is dealing with the same level of adversity that the guy who got screwed is. Still FAR from ideal; in fact, it sucks. And good luck convincing the league anyway.

Sorry, because that's really unfortunate.
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Re: problem with keepers and a bitter manager

Postby deerayfan072 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:18 am

one ton wrote:I just can't even understand how it got to this point. How did this not get dealt with before the season started? I'd have to say all three teams involved are at fault.

Unfortunately, this seems like it could be a fatal blow to your league, at least for this season. No matter what you do people are going to feel like it was compromised.

The only way I can think of to level the playing field is to make every other team drop one of their keepers. Then hold a lottery to set a new waiver order. Then everyone is dealing with the same level of adversity that the guy who got screwed is. Still FAR from ideal; in fact, it sucks. And good luck convincing the league anyway.

Sorry, because that's really unfortunate.


this is my question too. How did it not get fixed immediately. If I was the guy who was supposed to have Pena and it did not get fixed, I would have benched all my players and been out
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Re: problem with keepers and a bitter manager

Postby noseeum » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:18 am

one ton wrote:I just can't even understand how it got to this point. How did this not get dealt with before the season started? I'd have to say all three teams involved are at fault.

Unfortunately, this seems like it could be a fatal blow to your league, at least for this season. No matter what you do people are going to feel like it was compromised.

The only way I can think of to level the playing field is to make every other team drop one of their keepers. Then hold a lottery to set a new waiver order. Then everyone is dealing with the same level of adversity that the guy who got screwed is. Still FAR from ideal; in fact, it sucks. And good luck convincing the league anyway.

Sorry, because that's really unfortunate.


This is why I suggested the commish's team should bear the brunt of the punishment. It's clear he's the one who screwed up. It's his responsibility. He needs to fall on his sword here. The guy who kept Pena should have a choice between taking a player off the commish's team or taking Pena. If he takes Pena, the other dude gets to take a player from the commish. Give the commish waiver priority one right now as a consolation, as well as a promise that you won't hire someone to kick his a**.
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Re: problem with keepers and a bitter manager

Postby Yoda » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:21 am

noseeum wrote:
one ton wrote:I just can't even understand how it got to this point. How did this not get dealt with before the season started? I'd have to say all three teams involved are at fault.

Unfortunately, this seems like it could be a fatal blow to your league, at least for this season. No matter what you do people are going to feel like it was compromised.

The only way I can think of to level the playing field is to make every other team drop one of their keepers. Then hold a lottery to set a new waiver order. Then everyone is dealing with the same level of adversity that the guy who got screwed is. Still FAR from ideal; in fact, it sucks. And good luck convincing the league anyway.

Sorry, because that's really unfortunate.


This is why I suggested the commish's team should bear the brunt of the punishment. It's clear he's the one who screwed up. It's his responsibility. He needs to fall on his sword here. The guy who kept Pena should have a choice between taking a player off the commish's team or taking Pena. If he takes Pena, the other dude gets to take a player from the commish. Give the commish waiver priority one right now as a consolation, as well as a promise that you won't hire someone to kick his a**.


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Re: problem with keepers and a bitter manager

Postby Bloody Sox » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:20 pm

Art Vandelay wrote:What's really ridiculous about this whole situation, to me at least, is that the primary concern seems to be making sure that the person who wrongfully drafted Pena isn't upset, when it should be making this right by the guy who had one of his keepers taken out from under him. Nobody at the draft thought it was odd that he protected Tony Pena but let Carlos Pena go back into the pool? If I were in charge, the first priority would be to get the owner his guy back ASAP, then figure out compensation for the other owner.

Correct - the owner who drafted Pena is the one who should be compensated with a better waiver claim/draft position next year - not the guy who kept Pena. And you're right, not ONE person at the draft thought it was unusual that Tony Pena was kept?????
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