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It looks like Cliff Lee is back to his 04-06 form

Postby Dark Knight » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:21 pm

So far he has looked more like the 18 win Cliff Lee from 2005, then last year's disaster. ;-D

2 wins, 12 K's and a great ERA and WHIP.
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Re: It looks like Cliff Lee is back to his 04-06 form

Postby misterigloo » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:25 pm

Agreed that he has the potential, but how about we wait 3 or 4 more starts before we reinstate him as an 18 game winner?
Let's go Oliver Perez and his METS!
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Re: It looks like Cliff Lee is back to his 04-06 form

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:18 am

misterigloo wrote:Agreed that he has the potential, but how about we wait 3 or 4 more starts before we reinstate him as an 18 game winner?

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Re: It looks like Cliff Lee is back to his 04-06 form

Postby Spectrum » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:42 pm

Cliff's had stretches of starts like this, and then fallen apart. He does look really good so far, and if he can keep it together for the season, he has all the ability and the offense needed to win 18 again.

I'd keep an eye on Jake Westbrook as well. historically his K #s aren't as attractive as Lee's, but Westbrook added a change-up this off-season which was very effective in the spring, and he's put together a few good starts in a row this year.
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Re: It looks like Cliff Lee is back to his 04-06 form

Postby duckbillgates » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:06 am

OK, I know, I know ... it's four starts and they've all been against powder-puff offenses and BABIP and all that, buuut ...

He's got a 28-2 K to BB ratio right now. That is hard to ignore.
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Re: It looks like Cliff Lee is back to his 04-06 form

Postby Spectrum » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:19 am

yea i'm sitting here watching this game, and honestly can't believe what he's been able to do.

he was struggling to make the 5th spot in the rotation, competing with 2 guys who have little experience. And now no one can hit him. Its a good thing too with CC's early struggles and fausto walking too many, westbrook on the DL. If they all work out their issues this is one filthy rotation.
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Re: It looks like Cliff Lee is back to his 04-06 form

Postby jtbarr » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:42 am

4 Starts. 4-0
ONE EARNED RUN in 29.2 inn with 2W and 29Ks!!

WTF!!???? Yeah, he'll probably come back to Earth but what if he continues on even at 75% of this... that'd be a damn good year for WW garbage, as he was thought to be. Glad I took a chance on him 2 weeks back. I look like a genius.
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Re: It looks like Cliff Lee is back to his 04-06 form

Postby Montana » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:24 am

jtbarr wrote:4 Starts. 4-0
ONE EARNED RUN in 29.2 inn with 2W and 29Ks!!

WTF!!???? Yeah, he'll probably come back to Earth but what if he continues on even at 75% of this... that'd be a damn good year for WW garbage, as he was thought to be. Glad I took a chance on him 2 weeks back. I look like a genius.


He's as good a sell high canidate is there is out there right now...........with a semi-decent track record, in his past.......people out there are believing he's "putting it all together"

The fact of the matter is, he's a 4+era type pitcher, with 130-140 K upside.......if ANYONE in your league is buying into this at the moment.....SELL SELL SELL!

In one keeper league, I was able to package him and Dustin McGowan for Corey Hart..........in the other league I snagged him in, no ones bitting yet, so I'll continue to enjoy the ride.....but he second anyone offers up something in the hopes that Lee can maintain even a semblance of this, I'll be making a move.

Cliff Lee will be lucky to finish the season with numbers like these.......


13W's, 4era, 150K, 1.30Whip.


Not saying he doesn't have the potential to be valuable...........but anyone thinking he's even got a James Shields type upside, are greatly mistaken.
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Re: It looks like Cliff Lee is back to his 04-06 form

Postby Crystalstorm » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:28 am

duckbillgates wrote:OK, I know, I know ... it's four starts and they've all been against powder-puff offenses and BABIP and all that, buuut ...

He's got a 28-2 K to BB ratio right now. That is hard to ignore.

I was just to post the same thing.I'd sell high after his start against Seattle next week or even now.He can't avoid real line-ups that long,and he has nowhere to go but down..... ;-)
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Re: It looks like Cliff Lee is back to his 04-06 form

Postby Relentless » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:19 pm

Just wait for him to face a "real" line-up, and we'll see what this guy is really made of.
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