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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby Field » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:03 pm

RJ24VC15 wrote:If he can keep this up for another 3-4 starts he can gain some value.


Minimal. We're talking about a veteran here. Guys like this you hold onto because you're not going to get much for him because no one believes it unless he is lights out for about 1/2 a season. If it was a pre-season sleeper or a young stud then it would be a different story.
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby Spartans Rule » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:44 pm

Field wrote:
pangbones wrote:
Spartans Rule wrote:Another gem tonight.

So far this season, Cliff Lee is 3-0 with a 0.40 ERA and a 0.44 WHIP. And it's not like he's just getting lucky... 20 K, 2 BB and 0 HR allowed. Sabermetricians have to be loving this as well.

I know it's only three starts... but through three starts, Cliff Lee has been THE BEST pitcher in baseball. This is getting hard to ignore.


His BABIP is at a measley .154!! He is getting lucky, but as I said before, he has a nice looking schedule the next few weeks, so he could keep this up for a while longer. But I'd try to trade him soon. Get what you can for him, because he most likely won't have as much value as he does right now. No way he keeps this up much longer.


The only way you can have a 0.40 ERA is if you have such a low BABIP. Obviously he's getting lucky to some degree, but you still have to pitch well. He has pretty much no trade value so he's a solid hold player at this point.


Agreed.

Yeah, his BABIP will go up but he really has been awesome in terms of stuff he can control (K, BB, HR). Even his DIPS stats would look really good right now.
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby Spartans Rule » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:46 am

Complete game 3-hit shutout. 9 K, 0 BB.

29 K, 2 BB, 0 HR for the season.

I almost feel bad for Lee. The most logical explanation at this point is that he sold his soul to the devil. Poor guy's looking at eternal damnation.
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby jswede » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:00 am

0.28 era; 0.41 whip; 29k / 2bb in 31.2 inn; 4-0

Though I don't think ANYONE IN ALL OF FANTASY LEAGUES anywhere - I don't care how deep - started Cliff Lee in all 4 games.
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby Jimmy » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:07 am

He wasn't available in any of my Yahoo leagues. Found him in two of my ESPN leagues and spot started him. It's kind of hard to throw this spot starter back into the waiver pool now. :-D
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby Shitney™ » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:28 am

jswede wrote:0.28 era; 0.41 whip; 29k / 2bb in 31.2 inn; 4-0

Though I don't think ANYONE IN ALL OF FANTASY LEAGUES anywhere - I don't care how deep - started Cliff Lee in all 4 games.


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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby smoovethug » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:42 am

29/2 K/BB ratio = :-L I wonder how high we can sell on him, although with as good as he's looked...
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby jdsun1 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:50 am

Field wrote:
RJ24VC15 wrote:If he can keep this up for another 3-4 starts he can gain some value.


Minimal. We're talking about a veteran here. Guys like this you hold onto because you're not going to get much for him because no one believes it unless he is lights out for about 1/2 a season. If it was a pre-season sleeper or a young stud then it would be a different story.


Exactly. No one in their right mind would actually trade for him. You basically be glad you have him and ride him out. Thats how these things work. Cueto on the other hand will have a high trade value all year.
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby brock middlebrook » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:28 am

What the hell hapoened to this guy?


He was getting hit pretty hard in ST, and it's not like he was working on stuff - he was fighting for a roster spot.

WTF? This is one of the strangest things I've seen in FBB in my short tenure.
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby Another Blown Save » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:11 am

He's pulling a Carmona on us.
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