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Postby BJSFAN123 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:46 am

It seems like there are a ton of closers struggling early on, I can't remember..did this happen last season too?

Are closers not getting enough work in ST?
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Re: Crazy amount of blown saves?

Postby tianyi86 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:57 am

Or there's just alot of terrible closers. Lyons and Borowski doesn't have the stuff to be closers, while gagne is probably way past his prime. Tom gordon is old and a fill in brad lidge, so him blowing saves is logical. Trevor hoffman is old as well and this might be the year he declines and have heath bell takeover. I just don't think the 3rd tier of closers are reliable this year.
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Re: Crazy amount of blown saves?

Postby AussieDodger » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:03 am

So much for the people who brag about not being in the closer runs.
"Oh I got Borowski in the 17th aren't I awesome"
No. :-t
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Re: Crazy amount of blown saves?

Postby bobbing_headz » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:06 am

Well there has already been 3 today with Gagne, Wilson and Speier. It's been pretty brutal this year for some of the middle and lower tiered closers. Yikes 8-o
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Re: Crazy amount of blown saves?

Postby BJSFAN123 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:08 am

Don't forget about how bad Valverde has looked on Houston.
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Re: Crazy amount of blown saves?

Postby horste » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:26 am

I think some of it has to do with the high amount of turnover in the closers roles. There are at least 5 teams with new closers not counting injuries (Brewers, Cubs, Baltimore, Houston, Philly), I am sure there are more but to state my point that is all I need. With begin a closer for any team comes pressure, but switching roles or having added pressure because of team expectations can lead to many of the blown saves that there have been this season.
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Re: Crazy amount of blown saves?

Postby chipper » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:33 am

AussieDodger wrote:So much for the people who brag about not being in the closer runs.
"Oh I got Borowski in the 17th aren't I awesome"
No. :-t

Point taken.
But I also think it was part of their point that the turnover is so high, guys will pop up.

I always try to position myself in the middle, with guys like Soriano, Corpas, and Soria.
No early guys, but no ratio killers either.
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Re: Crazy amount of blown saves?

Postby horste » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:00 am

chipper wrote:
AussieDodger wrote:So much for the people who brag about not being in the closer runs.
"Oh I got Borowski in the 17th aren't I awesome"
No. :-t

Point taken.
But I also think it was part of their point that the turnover is so high, guys will pop up.

I always try to position myself in the middle, with guys like Soriano, Corpas, and Soria.
No early guys, but no ratio killers either
.


This is always the best idea, as you don't waste a high draft pick, but you also get decent peripherals stats too. And don't forget about Capps
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Re: Crazy amount of blown saves?

Postby tianyi86 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:49 am

I still don't understand why teams go with certain players as their closers but have a bazooka armed lights out setup man. Switch them around...

Todd Jones over Zumaya...Jim Leyland, really?
Joe Borowski and his atrocious 5 era over rafael betancourt. Idk who the team manager is but wtf r u smoking? Do you like to hear boos in cleveland?

At least in the case of san diego, Trevor hoffman deserves a huge leash because he's a hall of famer, so I can't complain about that, but the above cases just plainly doesn't make sense.
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Re: Crazy amount of blown saves?

Postby markj11 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:59 am

tianyi86 wrote:I still don't understand why teams go with certain players as their closers but have a bazooka armed lights out setup man. Switch them around...

Todd Jones over Zumaya...Jim Leyland, really?
Joe Borowski and his atrocious 5 era over rafael betancourt. Idk who the team manager is but wtf r u smoking? Do you like to hear boos in cleveland?

At least in the case of san diego, Trevor hoffman deserves a huge leash because he's a hall of famer, so I can't complain about that, but the above cases just plainly doesn't make sense.


Jones has yet to blow a save op this year.
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