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Postby jebatzel » Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:21 pm

Now that Danny Graves is back as Red's Closer how many saves do you guys think he is good for?

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Postby kentx12 » Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:31 pm

I would say 25 to 30 but i believe he has more value in daily leagues because you will be able to plug him in at sp when you dont have a pitcher going that day.
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Postby baseball genius » Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:34 pm

kentx12 wrote:I would say 25 to 30 but i believe he has more value in daily leagues because you will be able to plug him in at sp when you dont have a pitcher going that day.


I totally agree.
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Postby DieHardCubbie » Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:55 pm

baseball genius wrote:
kentx12 wrote:I would say 25 to 30 but i believe he has more value in daily leagues because you will be able to plug him in at sp when you dont have a pitcher going that day.


I totally agree.


That is about where I have him too....3.75 and 1.20 on the ratios.... :-)
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Postby Jer19G » Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:37 pm

3.26 30svs
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Postby Dude86 » Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:39 pm

I see a Jose Mesa type season where he has over 20 saves with an ERA over 6
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:37 am

If he has success I see the Reds trying to trade him and having Wagner close.
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Postby KULCAT » Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:51 am

the problem you have with guys like Graves or Shacon is that you have to wait for 15 save chances for them to quailify as an RP since they didnt come in relief last year(maybe Shacon did im not sure, but Graves definitely didnt
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Postby mightyian5 » Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:08 am

his era will not top 4. jose mesa is old and washed up, graves is still relatively young, and has a few good seaons left in him.

that trade possibility seems quite feasible, although i think it would happen after the season, and then wagner will slide into the position.
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Postby Apex » Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:39 am

KULCAT wrote:the problem you have with guys like Graves or Shacon is that you have to wait for 15 save chances for them to quailify as an RP since they didnt come in relief last year(maybe Shacon did im not sure, but Graves definitely didnt

As mentioned above, though, that's an advantage for Graves and Chacon. I have a daily starting line-up of SP,SP,RP,RP,P,P,P. I'm going to try to have 4 closers and 2 middle relievers since my league counts holds as well. I get to plug one of these two guys into the SP plot that would be open on days that I only have 1 starting pitcher on the mound. I just hope no one else in my league thinks about it.
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