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Re: Dana Eveland

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:15 am

CBMGreatOne wrote:I didn't punt SBs-
2007
Rios- 17
Kinsler- 23
Holliday/Renteria- 11

And I have Fukudome. I was thinking of trading for a Figgy or Weeks type player though. Right now I'm probably below league average in SBs (though for the first 2 weeks, I'm near the top), but certainly not punting.

I drafted Ellsbury and Theriot also, but they have since been dropped.


the average SB/active rosterspot in my leagues is 11-12.
so its about 100-110 sb/team average. And there are bench players like Bourn or Pierre.
with 65-70 projected SBs (Im generous with Fukudome), you are way below that.
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Re: Dana Eveland

Postby Montana » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:19 pm

I would most certainly consider that lineup to be "punting" sb's.........
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Re: Dana Eveland

Postby duckbillgates » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:56 pm

Uh, I hate to get this thread back on top, but ...

Eveland is scheduled for a two-start week with a couple of pretty favorable matchups:

vs. Chisox and John Denks

vs. Royals and John Bale

Might be a nice week to give him a test run. Heck, I'm considering him over single starts from Cain and an iffy Bedard.
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Re: Dana Eveland

Postby CBMGreatOne » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:13 pm

Montana wrote:I would most certainly consider that lineup to be "punting" sb's.........


C-Mauer (7?)
1B- Prince (0)
2B- Kinsler (25)
3B- Aramis (0)
SS- Renteria (15)
OF- Holliday (12)
OF- Rios (20)
OF- Bay (10)
Util- J Upton (10)
I also have Fukudome and Longoria who could chip in to go with Butler on my bench.

Not terribly far from 100... Also, it's a 6x6 so people can't afford empty SBs from specialists with OPS's under 700 like so many of them. I drafted Theriot and Ellsbury for speed, but they've already been cut for players like Billingsley and J Up. Besides, C Patterson and Victorino are both on waivers right now and I should be able to get one of them for Accardo.

So whatever your knee jerk reaction is to looking at my lineup that makes you think I'm light on speed, I assure you, I'm not punting.

BTW- How did a Dana Eveland thread become about my team punting SBs? :-b
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Re: Dana Eveland

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:30 am

CBMGreatOne wrote:
Montana wrote:I would most certainly consider that lineup to be "punting" sb's.........


C-Mauer (7?)
1B- Prince (0)
2B- Kinsler (25)
3B- Aramis (0)
SS- Renteria (15)
OF- Holliday (12)
OF- Rios (20)
OF- Bay (10)
Util- J Upton (10)
I also have Fukudome and Longoria who could chip in to go with Butler on my bench.

Not terribly far from 100... Also, it's a 6x6 so people can't afford empty SBs from specialists with OPS's under 700 like so many of them. I drafted Theriot and Ellsbury for speed, but they've already been cut for players like Billingsley and J Up. Besides, C Patterson and Victorino are both on waivers right now and I should be able to get one of them for Accardo.

So whatever your knee jerk reaction is to looking at my lineup that makes you think I'm light on speed, I assure you, I'm not punting.

BTW- How did a Dana Eveland thread become about my team punting SBs? :-b


Well Mauer and Bay chippin in is a boost, but you are really generous with those #s. I still count only 80.

Back to Eveland.
He is starting in Chicago on Tuesday. Wont be easy but after shutting down Cleveland and Toronto I see him as a must start. Especially that Danks will start for the Sox.
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Re: Dana Eveland

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:00 am

Syfo-Dyas wrote:
CBMGreatOne wrote:
Montana wrote:I would most certainly consider that lineup to be "punting" sb's.........


C-Mauer (7?)
1B- Prince (0)
2B- Kinsler (25)
3B- Aramis (0)
SS- Renteria (15)
OF- Holliday (12)
OF- Rios (20)
OF- Bay (10)
Util- J Upton (10)
I also have Fukudome and Longoria who could chip in to go with Butler on my bench.

Not terribly far from 100... Also, it's a 6x6 so people can't afford empty SBs from specialists with OPS's under 700 like so many of them. I drafted Theriot and Ellsbury for speed, but they've already been cut for players like Billingsley and J Up. Besides, C Patterson and Victorino are both on waivers right now and I should be able to get one of them for Accardo.

So whatever your knee jerk reaction is to looking at my lineup that makes you think I'm light on speed, I assure you, I'm not punting.

BTW- How did a Dana Eveland thread become about my team punting SBs? :-b


Well Mauer and Bay chippin in is a boost, but you are really generous with those #s. I still count only 80.

Back to Eveland.
He is starting in Chicago on Tuesday. Wont be easy but after shutting down Cleveland and Toronto I see him as a must start. Especially that Danks will start for the Sox.

In a H2H league, it's early in a week, and I could see starting him. In a Roto league with an IP limit, this is a time I think hanging him on the bench is a reasonable idea. If he puts together another very strong performance, I'll be more liberal with putting him in my lineup, which I did for his first two starts.
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Re: Dana Eveland

Postby jnormy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:03 pm

RocketsDWM wrote:Since some people have a hard time reading before posting:

HIS CURRENT POSITION IN YAHOO IS P, NOT SP. NEED THREE STARTS TO BECOME SP.

That should do it.


THEN HOW COME ANOTHER A'S PITCHER, GIO GONZALEZ, IS LISTED AS A SP IN THE YAHOO DATABASE WHEN HE HASN'T EVEN THROWN A SINGLE MAJOR LEAGUE PITCH YET?
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Re: Dana Eveland

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:08 pm

jnormy wrote:
RocketsDWM wrote:Since some people have a hard time reading before posting:

HIS CURRENT POSITION IN YAHOO IS P, NOT SP. NEED THREE STARTS TO BECOME SP.

That should do it.


THEN HOW COME ANOTHER A'S PITCHER, GIO GONZALEZ, IS LISTED AS A SP IN THE YAHOO DATABASE WHEN HE HASN'T EVEN THROWN A SINGLE MAJOR LEAGUE PITCH YET?

Feel free to use the search function to find posts by Fantasy Sports Genie, where he has given his best explanation several times.

That is all.
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Re: Dana Eveland

Postby jnormy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:34 pm

bigh0rt wrote:
jnormy wrote:
RocketsDWM wrote:Since some people have a hard time reading before posting:

HIS CURRENT POSITION IN YAHOO IS P, NOT SP. NEED THREE STARTS TO BECOME SP.

That should do it.


THEN HOW COME ANOTHER A'S PITCHER, GIO GONZALEZ, IS LISTED AS A SP IN THE YAHOO DATABASE WHEN HE HASN'T EVEN THROWN A SINGLE MAJOR LEAGUE PITCH YET?

Feel free to use the search function to find posts by Fantasy Sports Genie, where he has given his best explanation several times.

That is all.


Thanks for that, definitely clarified the Gio Gonzalez issue... Yahoo jumped the gun, realized their screwup on that one, and is rethinking their policy on rushing minor leaguers into the database going forward, according to FSG.

I always appreciate the Genie's best efforts to reach out to the Cafe and discuss Yahoo issues. The Eveland situation still makes little sense to me -- 41 major league appearances (35 of them in relief) over the past three years should have immediately qualified him at least as a RP as soon as he pitched an inning this year, IMO -- but it is what it is. I promise I won't beat this dead horse anymore.
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Re: Dana Eveland

Postby Montana » Tue May 13, 2008 6:19 am

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Just interested in getting peoples thoughts on Eveland now........as we've had a bit more time to look at him.

8 starts into the season...

3-3, 3.23ERA, 1.25 Whip, 35K's, 20BB's, 2 HR's given up......only one start with more than 3 runs allowed.........BABIP is right around .270-.280 (which makes his BAA of .228 all the more impressive)......Strand rate of around 75%.....


.....any of this leading you guys to come to a more concrete answer, in terms of what kind of production we can hope to get from from him, the rest of the way?
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