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Postby FoolOnTheHill » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:36 pm

Managers who bring in closers in non-save situations. Last night, Capps and Gordon. Who will be next?
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Re: The bane of fantasy . . .

Postby Philliebuster » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:41 pm

Torre put Saito in last night, non-save. Happens all the time.

Most closers get 30 saves at most, maybe 40, and maybe 5-7 blown saves, a couple no-decisions. They pitch 1 inning on average for a save opp. Most closers get 60-80 innings a year. Therefore approximately 1/3, maybe less of their innings are non-save opps.
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Re: The bane of fantasy . . .

Postby Grounded Polo » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:45 pm

Not every closer has Bob Wickman's attitude because if they do, they could end up having plenty of time to train for hot dog eating contests.
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Re: The bane of fantasy . . .

Postby Philliebuster » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:46 pm

I really should have looked up "bane" before I posted.
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Re: The bane of fantasy . . .

Postby FoolOnTheHill » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:52 pm

Well, I haven't studied it but it seems like more times than not stats take a hit when closers pitch in non-save situations.
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Re: The bane of fantasy . . .

Postby AmazinMeTS86 » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:53 pm

FoolOnTheHill wrote:Managers who bring in closers in non-save situations. Last night, Capps and Gordon. Who will be next?


Capps came on with a five run lead, two runners on, and no outs so it was a save situation I believe.
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Re: The bane of fantasy . . .

Postby bigh0rt » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:53 pm

AmazinMeTS86 wrote:
FoolOnTheHill wrote:Managers who bring in closers in non-save situations. Last night, Capps and Gordon. Who will be next?


Capps came on with a five run lead, two runners on, and no outs so it was a save situation I believe.

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Re: The bane of fantasy . . .

Postby jealousblues » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:08 pm

FoolOnTheHill wrote:Managers who bring in closers in non-save situations. Last night, Capps and Gordon. Who will be next?



oh, ffs, gordon gave me a 100+ ERA and it wasnt a save situation...?

I hate the Phillies
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Re: The bane of fantasy . . .

Postby fezzik » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:27 pm

I don't mind. I typically only draft closers with good ratios, so I'm happy to see them pitching. It's not like pitching on a given night will prevent them from closing the next day if necessary. Give me a K or two and lower my era/whip. ;-D

I wouldn't be happy if I had Borowski on my team and they did that with him though... :-D
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Re: The bane of fantasy . . .

Postby jfg » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:31 pm

fezzik wrote:It's not like pitching on a given night will prevent them from closing the next day if necessary.


But, it might cause them to not pitch in two days. Non-Save, Save, and then somebody else gets the save opp on the third consecutive day in most cases.
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