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Postby Pete O » Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:53 am

I have the 4th overall pick in a league that is traditional 5X5 plus Total bases and OBP. Is Bonds a good pick here? League is non-keeper and will have a choice between Bonds and Helton.
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Postby MikeeDee » Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:25 am

Tough call, seeing how Bonds has even less of an entourage than last year, I can see his walk total balloon even more. Go with Bonds.
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Postby KPucks » Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:31 pm

Between those two, I would take Helton. He will have a monster average and good OBP, and he will perform better than Bonds in every other category except SB's and HR's (which will be about even in my opinion).
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Postby hooligan1 » Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:40 pm

I like Helton!! Bonds is becoming more of a risk every day IMHO, due to his age, worsening line-up, the whole BALCO thing...... Sometime soon, he is going to start sliding and I think it will be a rapid one. I personally don't want to be the one without a chair when the music stops.
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Postby HOOTIE » Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:10 pm

Since it's a non keeper, and nobody has Bonds oba, i would take Bonds.
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Postby NZF » Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:20 pm

MikeeDee wrote:Tough call, seeing how Bonds has even less of an entourage than last year, I can see his walk total balloon even more. Go with Bonds.


Wouldn't that be a reason for Bonds walk totals to drop?


I would take Helton without hesitation.
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Postby Apex » Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:53 pm

New Zealand Fan wrote:
MikeeDee wrote:Tough call, seeing how Bonds has even less of an entourage than last year, I can see his walk total balloon even more. Go with Bonds.


Wouldn't that be a reason for Bonds walk totals to drop?


I would take Helton without hesitation.

No. Less support around him means more and more walks. If there's no one to make the other team pay for putting men on base, why risk pitching to San Francisco OF?
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Postby BobbyRoberto » Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:53 pm

This is a tough one. I might be in the same position. I have the 5th pick and Bonds and Helton might still be there from what I've heard from the owners ahead of me. A lot of people are down on Bonds because of the reasons mentioned above, but his numbers last year were amazing, especially OBP (.529).

Looking at your categories:
R-Helton
HR-Bonds
RBI-Helton
SB-Bonds
AVG-Either
Total Bases-Helton
OBP-Bonds

Helton is much younger and the Rockies scored about 100 more runs than San Fran last season.

Both positions are deep, with many good players.

Games played, the last 3 years:
Bonds-153, 143, 130
Helton-159, 156, 160

I'd have to say Helton.
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Postby fezzik » Sat Feb 21, 2004 4:41 pm

I'd go with Helton only because there aren't any question marks surrounding his game...he's primed for another huge season
Bonds...well, he can't play 160 games anymore, he's getting older, and he's so freakin' muscular that he tends to strain or pull something every couple months...

I'd take Helton, but I can certainly see the temptation for Bonds...either one should do you very well in OBP
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Postby DieHardCubbie » Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:22 pm

That is a tuff question....but I think I would go with Helton.... :-)
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