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Price or Wieters?

Postby JDROX » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:13 pm

AL only

1st pick Price of Wieters?

There was word today that Price felt something minor in his elbow....I was going to take Price up to this point but always get nervous with young pitchers. Should this impact who to take at this point?
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Re: Price or Wieters?

Postby Snakes Gould » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:54 am

price for sure.
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Re: Price or Wieters?

Postby Grounded Polo » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:09 pm

I'd also go with Price.
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Re: Price or Wieters?

Postby kimchi_chigae » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:53 pm

The Price is right. ;-D
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Re: Price or Wieters?

Postby DevilDriver » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:55 pm

Another vote for Price.
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Re: Price or Wieters?

Postby thomasps3 » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:17 pm

Yea, no. I disagree with the #1 for Price in an AL only draft.

There are multiple reasons, so here they are:

1. Hitting is much more predicable. With Wieters, you would reasonably expect this:
.280
20 HR
60-70 RBI
5-8 SBs
70 Rs(if you count them)

and in the AL catching lot, that puts him in the Top 5 catchers as a rookie, which will be sooner rather than later(think September '08),full season in '09.

Wieters specifically has plus power, plus average, plus plus make-up, and is the future cornerstone of the Orioles franchise, which negates the -only worry about being traded.

On the other hand, Price was the best pitcher available(Porcello comes to mind as well) in last years draft. Now based on what have been other rookie starter success stories (Verlander, Buchholz, et al), having to face the Red Sox and Yankees 10/30 starts per year, I would classify a successful season for D. Price as this:
13 Ws
4.25 ERA
1.28 WHIP
170 Ks(if you count them)

To me, there is no doubt how many SPs post those numbers, and if you think in an AL-only that those numbers are not easy to come by, well, just look at guys like:
Jeremy Bonderman
Jon Garland
Jake Westbrook

they are single digit SPs in -only and wit hthe way Price is bound to be handled by TB, it has to mark down his star within the constraints of the rotisserie question you are asking.

That is why I vote Wieters 7 days a week and twice on Sunday
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Re: Price or Wieters?

Postby deerayfan072 » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:57 am

I don't know where you come up with a 4.25 era being successful just because he pitches against the Sox and Yanks. Kazmir and Shields both pitch against them and have low ERA's and Kaz led the league in K's last year. Price has more talent than Shields and Kazmir. His stats will be much better than that. I would def take Price
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Re: Price or Wieters?

Postby raiders_umpire » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:56 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:I don't know where you come up with a 4.25 era being successful just because he pitches against the Sox and Yanks. Kazmir and Shields both pitch against them and have low ERA's and Kaz led the league in K's last year. Price has more talent than Shields and Kazmir. His stats will be much better than that. I would def take Price




Price more talented then Kazmir? :-o :-o I think you are asking for way too much if you really expect Price to be much better then Kazmir in the future.
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Re: Price or Wieters?

Postby Grounded Polo » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:47 pm

Hitters are more predictable than pitchers, but catchers are in another category, they're just as unpredictable as pitchers.
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Re: Price or Wieters?

Postby deerayfan072 » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:13 pm

raiders_umpire wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:I don't know where you come up with a 4.25 era being successful just because he pitches against the Sox and Yanks. Kazmir and Shields both pitch against them and have low ERA's and Kaz led the league in K's last year. Price has more talent than Shields and Kazmir. His stats will be much better than that. I would def take Price




Price more talented then Kazmir? :-o :-o I think you are asking for way too much if you really expect Price to be much better then Kazmir in the future.


From what I saw in ST, Price has more raw talent than Scott does. If he reaches his top than Price will be better. He won't be "much" better, but he will be a slightly better pitcher.
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